No pressure though.
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Player Wilson Odobert
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Way too many pages on the new guy. Highlights why we are where we are.
I think (hope)that he’s been slightly misused as a transition winger in what are some abysmal teams (Troyes and Burnley, both relegated).
These teams basically have thrown him out, in his first minutes in senior football, to feast on scraps and play as an outlet in transition. In large spaces dueling for the ball, it really is physical tools first. There’s a reason someone like Traoré still starts PL matches, pace and power are king in sides like these.
And then I saw that Burnley played him at #10 on Monday, and my view of him improved exponentially. We desperately need a winger who can do something with the ball and initiate attacks. It just feels like hot potato against a set defense usually. We need a primary ball handler other than Maddison.
To me, and again, I’ve only seen a few bits, transition running is not what Odobert is about. He’s a PSG boy. Favorite player is Neymar. He has possession pedigree. He not only wants the ball, he wants to take responsibility. He wants to come infield, initiate moves, set up passes and runs 3-4 plays ahead. He wants to control the ball. And so these transition based sides that ask him to essentially livewire his way into creating chances on the break are a poor fit for what he really is.
Now, I could be completely wrong, and he may in fact be shit. But what this club has been chasing ever since we missed out on Hazard in 2012, he seems to have.
The thing that the endless string of replacements (N’Jie, Nkoudou, Moura, Bergwijn, Johnson, etc.) have lacked is the mental level. They have skill and pace, but don’t have ann innate ability to control play and initiate a larger attack. When I watch Odobert I see much more than that. He’s the same age as a young Eze (in 2019 at QPR) or Olise in 2021 at Reading, and that’s before they were viewed as stars. Also 3-4 years younger than Bergwijn at PSV and Nkoudou at Marseille when we bought them.
Like the vast majority of honest people I had no idea who he was or how he played.
I saw him last season and said he looked a player. Even a gooner it is my misfortune to know said he liked him. But I take your point I notice a few people only watch their team. I do try to watch live the top, the middle and the button sides in the EPL every season just to get a feel for the overall quality. Usual three games a season of the three levels.
Highly unlikely if we're honest
That would be lovely.
The problem is though we'd then sell him for a massive profit before he achieved anything meaningful with us.
That's our modus operandi.
That doesn't sound like us at all tbh. Are you sure you're not confusing us with Brighton?
Actually, we have a habit of pillaging relegated / championship clubs for their promising youngsters. Can you name me the last one that reached Saka / Salah levels and won something with us before being sold for a hefty profit?
Maybe I'm missing something here. My memory ain't what it used to be..
Damn, a whole 2 in a decade, last one being sold around 8 years ago. Sure sounds like something we do regularly.
Actually, we have a habit of pillaging relegated / championship clubs for their promising youngsters. Can you name me the last one that reached Saka / Salah levels and won something with us before being sold for a hefty profit?
Maybe I'm missing something here. My memory ain't what it used to be..
Yeah. But which of all these numerous punts reach the levels of Saka and Salah, as the poster alluded to?
The only ones that did were sold for profit before they won with us
IF this guy reaches that level, do you honestly believe we'll sign the quality of player that would keep him happy at Spurs and give him the confidence he'll achieve his goals here??....Like we did(nt) with Kane?
Of course you don't.
Son, obviously.Yeah. But which of all these numerous punts reach the levels of Saka and Salah, as the poster alluded to?
The only ones that did were sold for profit before they won with us
IF this guy reaches that level, do you honestly believe we'll sign the quality of player that would keep him happy at Spurs and give him the confidence he'll achieve his goals here??....Like we did(nt) with Kane?
Of course you don't.
We kept Kane till his 30s, that's more than enough time to keep any player.
For about 10 years we did with kane.Yeah. But which of all these numerous punts reach the levels of Saka and Salah, as the poster alluded to?
The only ones that did were sold for profit before they won with us
IF this guy reaches that level, do you honestly believe we'll sign the quality of player that would keep him happy at Spurs and give him the confidence he'll achieve his goals here??....Like we did(nt) with Kane?
Of course you don't.
He got beaten by Leicester to a prem title