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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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I can't recall a 16/17 year old being as hyped by Spurs as Moore has been and the expectation is that he will get meaningful minutes this season from journalists and Ange quotes etc.
If he is as good as suggested then I expect him to impress and gradually see more minutes. If this season goes well for him we will be entering the next season with no doubts as to his first-team status.
Young players only need loans if they are not yet trusted to get 1000+ minutes for the first team but that doesn't look to be the case for Moore. I reckon he goes the Foden route.
But I agree the full transition will likely be longer than a year and because of that we should be adding an elite gamechanger to the attack next summer to take over from Son as our star man.
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Maybe he’d get minutes as the more defensive of the 3 CMs? Ange has had it with Biss?
Would be a bit of a logjam at the 8 and that’s his position really. I like him though. Terrier with skills and an eye for goals
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Just been told the media team found out same time as the rest of the world. That's how secretive this was kept, and why the announcement happened how it did. People knew something was happening as did we behind the scenes, but very few knew who and how advanced it was.
I thought he was inside the club, a confidant, brother to the players?
The idiot's a fraud but then again it's an obsessed cult over on that section of SC
Just been told the media team found out same time as the rest of the world. That's how secretive this was kept, and why the announcement happened how it did. People knew something was happening as did we behind the scenes, but very few knew who and how advanced it was.
I thought he was inside the club, a confidant, brother to the players?
The idiot's a fraud but then again it's an obsessed cult over on that section of SC
"...but the fact that he can play out on the left, again gives us some good options"
It doesn't because he can't.
It didn't work at all when he played there.
wtf??
Foden is an interesting guide- I looked up his minutes in each PL season and he had:
45 minutes when aged 17/18
330 minutes when aged 18/19
893 minutes when 19/20
1614 minutes when 20/21
The most PL recent season had 2869 minutes and he started 33 games- aged 23/24.
If Moore follows same trajectory it would be fantastic, but we still can't rely on him for the next few seasons in the first XI.
It's very hard to predict what our squad will look like next season because there are many youngsters. Even Johnson just turned 23.
Troyes certainly part of City Group. Reason for Ogbert's sale is I think straightforward, Troyes got relegated at end 22/23 despite Ogbert's presence (and indeed would have been relegated again at end of 23/24 were it not for Bordeaux's collapse which meant they were relegated instead of Troyes).
So I think Ogbert was always going to leave Troyes at end of 22/23, only question was where - and quite possibly Kompany's presence at Burnley gave them an edge over other destinations but at aged 18 Ogbert probably wasn't a top target for top clubs and it wasn't seen as a huge deal.
Why wouldn´t we believe, when it comes from the horses mouth, the Wycombe wolf?!
Troyes certainly part of City Group. Reason for Ogbert's sale is I think straightforward, Troyes got relegated at end 22/23 despite Ogbert's presence (and indeed would have been relegated again at end of 23/24 were it not for Bordeaux's collapse which meant they were relegated instead of Troyes).
So I think Ogbert was always going to leave Troyes at end of 22/23, only question was where - and quite possibly Kompany's presence at Burnley gave them an edge over other destinations but at aged 18 Ogbert probably wasn't a top target for top clubs and it wasn't seen as a huge deal.
It wouldn't surprise me if Moore played say 330 mins thus coming season (less than 4 complete game equivalent) with maybe one start after Christmas and maybe 8 sub appearances - aged 17
Following season might take that up to 1,000 mins (aged 18)
So its only 26/27 (aged 19) when he's taking enough minutes to be said to being a full squad member capable of rotating with a first team player, That's how development works
But don't forget that with Ogbert (aged 19) and Yang Min-Hyuk,(aged 19 in April 2025) we expect to have 2 wingers almost 3 years further down the development route than Moore - so we'll be able to adjust our transfers over the next couple of years based upon how Spurs view the rate of development of Moore, Ogbert and Yang .... and indeed other youngsters.
Because the poster I asked watches a lot of youth U21 football.
But the point is Ogbert left youth football a couple of years ago !
Fine
But the point is Ogbert left youth football a couple of years ago !
No worries. My point is it's easy to start subconsciously believing the guff that all the so-called ITKs make up, mainly because they just copy each other and suddenly the rumour has legs.
As far as I'm aware the only time Ange has spoken publically about Gallagher was during Euros punditry:
"It is about the energy and his ability to regain the football, Conor (Gallagher) is the one who jumps. He won’t sit.
“Gareth (Southgate) also mentioned his ability to run and break lines – the thing with Conor is that he will run and break lines. Sometimes he won’t even receive the ball because his running capacity disrupts oppositions.”
Then also I think we were rumoured to have been thinking about preparing a bid for Gallagher or something. But that could have been just ITKs guessing, based in Ange's Euros comments, that we were likely to make a bid.
From what I’ve read, Yang will take time to adjust physically to the PL, so his development could be in parallel with Moore while Odobert is significantly ahead.
Perfectly possible, but equally Yang has played circa 25 games in Korean top league already and will have played maybe a total of 40- 50 games by the time he arrives in January.
Its difficult to gauge the level of Korean football but lets assume its at a level of League 1 - that probably puts Yang at least a season ahead of Moore in having played a full season of mens football. The only question is how quickly Yang adjusts to the physicality of PL football, but that's true of a number of players coming from overseas.
So in terms of coming though, Ogbert is here to play as a bench option today, Yang might be a bench option in 25/26 (or maybe season after depending on his adjustment to physicality of PL), with Moore following.
Yang won’t get no where near the premier league
His name's Odobert.
And you will be fucking happy about it!!
Genuine good stats, high pressure, good passing, great tackling and he's a fucking giant