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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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Solanke last season outscored both together btw.
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Thats an absolute bargain. Nothing to lose with that fee, if he's shit sell him back to Serie A or Saudi in 18 months for a few mil. I think we've missed a trick. Chiesa for Werner and our window would be a lot healthier. Would just need that left sided defender.
Yeah that 4 year deal will be an albatross if he can’t stay fit.
Not good enough for us according to folk on here yet good enough for Liverpool who already have a better attack than us.
Not good enough for us according to folk on here yet good enough for Liverpool who already have a better attack than us.
What role will he play at Liverpool?
All I can say is that I hope I was completely wrong about him.
Chiesa will not be able to stay fit playing regularly at this level. Don’t give a toss that he’s gone to Liverpool.
Well, let’s see. I guess we are about to find out.
It’s the other way round. Data analysts aren’t looking at goals and assists, we can all do that, they are looking at underlying metrics and how they weight in relation to type of team tactically etc to try and find tactical match ups that represent value.
I think we ended up with Johnson - pre Lange - because Ange likes a wide forward who can go outside (as his FB’s go inside). I think Johnson was largely an eye-test purchase pre Lange (Paratici) as we’d been linked previously.
Diaz/Chiesa
Jota/Nunez
Salah/Gakpo
That's pretty insane depth.
Don't know the wages. Could be £300,000 a week for all we know.
If he ends up injured all the time that's a huge commitment.
If you knew a single thing about football, you wouldn't be questioning why we bought Solanke.
So probably best you don't say anything at all, there's a good fellow!
Depth?
What the fuck is even that?
(google that if it makes no sense)
Chelsea had a better squad than us in 16/17 though.
Anyone trying to argue we had a better side quality wise on paper is deluded.
No European football helped, but we had no European football last season and we were still crap for large periods.
The quality of your first team and squad is and always will be the most important factor when it comes to winning trophies. (Leicester being the rare exception of course)
So they are placing a £200k a week player on the bench
Let me explain why I really do mean waste of money when discussing Richy/Johnno. Double spending.
To illustrate my point, let’s look at three really good transfers and examples of great recruitment: Romero Porro and VDV. each of these players were bought for high fees, £40m+, but with that comes the requisite quality. These players are pretty much penciled in on the team sheet and locks to start every match. Not perfect players, but everyone agrees they’re key parts of our foundation moving forward and, more importantly, it will be hard to upgrade upon them in the market.
As a result, we don’t need to buy a new CB to replace Romero or VDV because they didn’t work out.
let’s compare and contrast with £60m Richy and £50m Johnno - basically after only one season, the club and manager decided that we need to spend big on a new striker and a new winger, specifically RW. While Neto didn’t come off, Odobert did and it’s clear from Ange’s comments that he wants a RW upgrade. As for Richy, we did however spend £65m on Solanke, which is a sign the club did not trust Richy to be that foundational striker piece.
Do you see the difference? Our defenders are foundational, hard to upgrade, and penciled in - key parts of our future. Johnno and Richy on the other hand have been immediately targeted as positions we need to upgrade despite spending that money.
What this does is necessitates situations where we’re DOUBLE spending on a position so now our striker outlay is £120m between Dom/ Richy and our winger outlay is in the hundred million range because we had to immediately get an upgrade on Johnson. That is why it’s a waste of money. Look I know not every transfer will be a hit but with our chairman’s financial limitations, we really cannot afford to be missing on £50/60m transfers. And unfortunately we’ve done just that.
If they win titles, what does it matter?
That's the difference, they aim to win trophies we merely hope we do.
It's not many minutes for Chiesa though.
Which is exactly why I don't really see what all the fuss is about. He will be a bench option for them and probably not even play that much in the prem.
Would I have preferred him to Werner? yes.
Does it make sense to break your wage structure for a spot in the rotation that might not always make the matchday squad? not at all. Especially when Werner is a loan so doesn't need to be shifted when you start bringing Mikey Moore through.
Chiesa will either win the battle with Diaz or Salah will pick up an injury. If not he's a 4 year contract on huge money that they have no chance to move on whilst riding the bench.