Wouldn't swap Odobert for Neto
Crazy left-field idea maybe, but how about backing players that actually play for your team as opposed to gazing with envy at those signed by others?
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Crazy left-field idea maybe, but how about backing players that actually play for your team as opposed to gazing with envy at those signed by others?
Not what I said. I said I wouldn't swap him for Son.Wouldn't swap Odobert for Neto
I said the potential of Odobert and Moore I wouldn't swap for the potential of Neto either.
Just making the point that Son right now vs Neto right now isn't even a conversation.
Not what you said tho mate. You said you'd swap him or Chiesa for any of our wingers.
I do think the context is different,
Tottenham were after a no1 option out wide, or at least someone with the talent to grow into being our no1, whilst being available. Chiesa was explored but likely turned down because of the latter factor.
At Liverpool there is no such pressure. Salah is in his last year of contract, but he is still a machine who stays fit and produces. Diaz is inconsistent but is still very talented, Jota is a tremendous impact player, and there's a quality player within Gakpo. Liverpool can afford to take the gamble, if they are lucky, they get Euro 21 Chiesa, if he flops, they've still got quality in his position.
The final kicker is that Juventus have basically swapped out Chiesa, Soule & Illing Jr for Nico Gonzalez, Francisco Conceicao & Jadon Sancho. When you put it like that, it becomes less bothersome.
The defensive issues are not down to personnel, it's down to coaching decisions and those can be changed/improved in training.
The attacking issues are down to a lack of quality that can only be remedied through the market.
Too far out mate. As soon as they sign here they are shit. If you don't realize that you are part of the problem and one of the reasons why this club never wins anything.
I don't know how potential is swapped and I don't know why you're focusing on Son take your pick of any of the others to swap him with.
No chance they pay his wages
You said you'd swap Neto or Chiesa for any of our wingers. I said ok then how about Son. And now you want me to pick someone else?
I would have been up for Neto coming here but he chose a lifetime contract at the worst shitcunt of a sports organization in the world so fuck him. Chiesa I was never fussed with because he doesn't look like the same player to me anymore and the premier league is the last place to be if you aren't able to be full intensity for 90mins, 38 games of the season.
Utd will pay for most of it.
Or maybe you can look at it from both sides and think the club can do some good things and make some shockers as well like last summer, some really great signings but Solomon was a waste of time and not getting that 2nd centre half possibly cost us top 4.
Or this summer, well done on Gray and Odobert, Solanke is better than Richarlison but we havent done enough to really push on and Werner, just why? Fans are allowed some critical thinking.
obviously i agree that some transfers hit and some miss. Obviously agree that Levynomics doesn't give a toss if it leaves the squad short but can we actually talk about that in the transfer window thread, please?
If we are in here talking about the lack of that player to cover the left side of the defense, to me that's clearly an issue and the club should be sending out Lange to explain the window like Paratici used to.
But this isn't what happens in this thread and isn't what happened since the news broke Chiesa is taking his Ledley King knees to Liverpool. That's just being used as ANOTHER excuse to hate on players we have at the club.
Always amused me when clubs pay for the wages of a player they're sending to someone else.
If I was so sh!t at my job that my employer paid someone else to take me for a year, I'd have to sit myself down and ask some very serious questions
It's like you're so sh!t, we don't even want you hanging around the place.
What? This IS the transfer window thread where all we can discuss are transfers or our lack of them, especially in key areas.
Do you lot even know what it is you're arguing about anymore?
Well as there is an obligation to buy, I'm sure they will have to at some point.
You didn't read the post you quoted did you?
Can't believe we didn't and yet kept Werner.
Point 1) I fully agree that Pochettino had earned the right to rebuild the team - Levy IMO panicked, then compounded the 17-19 paralysis with and even worse move. That's what contributed to making the size of this rebuild so enormous.
Point 2) Agree as well, but it was obvious Levy put more power in Poch's hands, he went from Head Coach to Manager + He didn't bother replacing Paul Mitchell. Hitchen had far less perceived power than Mitchell, Don Fabio (free him!) and now Lange. You can see how Liverpool's recruitment got less effective when Edwards first left. Nunez & Gakpo not being hits is really having a knock-on effect, plus Diaz isn't anywhere near as good as what Mane was.
Point 3) I actually agree VDV is still unpolished, but he's got such spectacular looking attributes that it's understandable why people get carried away. Romero however is quality and is underrated to me, Also we have to understand it in the context of the CB's we've had in the last 5 years - It was heartbreaking watching Jan & Toby decline, Dier & Sanchez were horrible, Lenglet very meh.
Just feels like a fresh start in that department and I for one feel a lot more comfortable about having Romero, VdV, Dragusin, and talent like Phillips, Vuskovic and Dorrington in the pipeline.
And you're saying, based on one game for Solanake and one game for Odobert that we have not improved our attack?
Surely time to close this thread, no more incomings occurring.