Have we this season? 1 goal from a set piece against the scum, only time we've conceded more than one (obviously a small sample size) so far this season is Newcastle. I know you'll point to last season, we actually conceded less last year than Conte's final campaign, when we were playing all out defence. It was still too leaky of course, but I feel like we've already been wayyy less open this year (last night was definitely our worst performance in that regard IMO, probably due to the amount of rotation which I didn't like).
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Yes.
If this job has the reputation now of being a manager killer (and at this point, why would it not) who are we going to get? What up and comer would want to see their chance at the highest level blown by believing in Daniel Levy when past European champions and a host of others couldn't make it work?
Though I suppose Tuchel would have Werner on the next bus out of town!
At the start maybe.
Chelsea were still a force and Woolwich finished 3rd and 2nd in Poch's first 2 seasons.
United hadn't totally declined to the current joke either.
Different competition at the time.
He should have won something with what he had thought. We were too good for 2 to 3 years to have finished with nothing.
yeah an attacking system should probably have....stay with me here, the righ attackers.
I think he'll be forced to tweak it if he wants to survive. There are changes he can make.
Players are also at fault. I don't think Ange is telling them to move the ball super slow and have no one run in behind. Don't give Solanke service. Maddening.
or the tea lady lol
The way i see it, our best attacking players are Son, Solanke, Kulu and Madders. None of them excel in the wide areas.
Wish we could see that old Man City Pelligrini lineup 4-2-2-2. Son and Solanke up top. Kule/Madders behind. Let our fullbacks provide the width. At least, i think that's the best way to get something out of our personal.
problem easy to see, the coach responsible for collecting these data analytics will have already relayed this info , it's not so much the possession, it's that the possession is in the opponents half. they're being penned in for the majoirty of the game but then we are clueless with it, passing it from left to right trying to find a cross, pull them out of shape etc.
it's gonna work against dead teams, but more elite defences i'd like to see them just shoot more, espeically Son, Kulu and maddison.
Sarr tried it a couple of times last night but he's not right for it, a shot could deflect, result in a goalkeeper howler, be a wonder striker, get spilled in the path of solanke etc etc.
we need to add this
i''m still calm about it, the last 2 stats can be dramatically improved with small tweaks
it's gonna work against dead teams, but more elite defences i'd like to see them just shoot more, espeically Son, Kulu and maddison.
Sarr tried it a couple of times last night but he's not right for it, a shot could deflect, result in a goalkeeper howler, be a wonder striker, get spilled in the path of solanke etc etc.
we need to add this
i''m still calm about it, the last 2 stats can be dramatically improved with small tweaks
We’ve conceded enough to have only won once. Sure we could score more and should have but which goal this season have we conceded that was unstoppable? 3 brain farts from Romero and an avoidable Harvey Barnes goal.
If Coventry could finish we would have conceded 3 or 4 last night, it reminded me greatly of the Fulham away game in the league
It’s chicken and egg though
We don’t have the right attackers for the system - change the faaacking system until we do have the right attackers.
You can’t play these players in the wrong system or you get what we have at the moment.
So again, it comes down to his stubborn refusal to adapt and Levy’s inability to give managers what they need. Levy will get his when the TW is open, but for now Ange is perfectly capable of changing the system - but he is a stubborn guy
Shoot more!!!problem easy to see, the coach responsible for collecting these data analytics will have already relayed this info , it's not so much the possession, it's that the possession is in the opponents half. they're being penned in for the majoirty of the game but then we are clueless with it, passing it from left to right trying to find a cross, pull them out of shape etc.
it's gonna work against dead teams, but more elite defences i'd like to see them just shoot more, espeically Son, Kulu and maddison.
Sarr tried it a couple of times last night but he's not right for it, a shot could deflect, result in a goalkeeper howler, be a wonder striker, get spilled in the path of solanke etc etc.
we need to add this
i''m still calm about it, the last 2 stats can be dramatically improved with small tweaks
We had 15 shots against Leicester
16 against Everton
A ridiculous 20 away to Newcastle
15 at Home to Woolwich
We’re averaging 16 shots a game - Porro has about half of these. But we’re taking pot shots from shiete angles and distances. Despite our numerous shots, our XG stat is bang average, which tells you how speculative these shots are
Ange only has one system and it doesn't work with our players. Either he becomes a little more flexible which I doubt or he has to go...we seem to be going backwards...
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If we don't win against Brentford I think he's done for. Unlikely to get anything at ManU or at Brighton. Can't go into the international break with only 1 win in the league, and that against Everton.
Sure keep making up rationale that suits your needs. We also had massive injury issues in the second 25% (post Chelsea disaster). Maybe that should have less weight. See how that works?
I also stated I’m not fully onboard ange. I just think it’s way too early to make a move.
I’m starting to think it’s the system rather than the players.
I think it’s too simplistic for a top league, too easily worked out and negated. The refusal to adapt is also shooting ourselves in the foot making it too one dimensional which further makes it easier to nullify.
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Hey. Angeball means everyone gets to play out of position. It’s the new thing!!!
Game changer.