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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Imagine Conte or even Mourinho starting off here and week before opening game star striker leaves and they have to go full first season without a recognised striker?!

Conte’s wig would have blown off by the end of the first month! Conte’s reign would have sucked balls even more without Kane.

Solanke has just returned after injury and needs time to acclimatise to new system and teammates.

Fab Romano said last week zero chance Ange will be sacked soon (quoted on HotspurHQ) . Said Club knows its longer term project . Not sure about zero chance as no one has that in this league but club will give him more time especially as we haven’t exactly been played off the park in openi f four games. Cov was embarrassing
 
I have issues with Angie's system, but it may well be we're just not good enough yet.

What was our expected points from our first 4 games?

Arguably only the Leicester game was an "unexpected" result. Maybe you argue a draw at Newcastle (remember, in st James park), and a draw to Woolwich at home would be "expected", but I think you could easily argue losses to both are (unfortunately) also expected at this stage.

We have a more favourable run the next 4 games. I hope the system improves as the quality of our opponents even out schedule wise.

Do you think we have a more favourable run?! really? The way we are playing?

Brentford at home is never easy for us. United away, Brighton Away and West Ham at home.

Ange lost three of those games last season. Remember we basically don't win London derbies under him. We rarely ever get anything from United away. the scum at home is usually an easier fixture regardless of their level at the moment. Brighton will thrash us at their ground, guaranteed.

Sorry, I have absolutely no faith that we can get results from teams who are on our level or better.
 
The delusion is off the charts with some people on this site, unless they're being deliberately contrary for shits and giggles.

We're getting worse under Ange, not better. If he does get the sack, Levy needs to follow him out the door. At this point we're like a battered wife who stays with her man out of fear the next guy will be the same or worse.

We're not THE laughing stock of the league (that would be Everton) but we're not far from it.
 
I get people not necessarily thinking Ange is

Postecoglu managed to finish above Poch and his billion pound team and Howe and his Saudi backed team last season with a pretty shit/inexperienced PL team. How could that be described as "out of his depth"?

And I understand some people might not enjoy aggressive, front foot, high press, keep the ball football, but it's hardly "dogshit" is it. I mean, come on FFS, as Spurs fans most of you have seen plenty of dog shit football, and in the last few years too, this is definitely not that.

Lol mate the audacity to say ‘Howe and his Saudi backed team’ - he took over a team hovering above RELEGATION and we have both a much higher wage bill and Ange has spent more than Howe. Newcastle badly wanted Solanke for example, couldn’t pay it. Ange has had way more resources than Howe you joker, imagine if Ange had to rely on the genuine championship level talent Howe did for most of last season !!! Burn, Krafth, Murphy, Longstaff…..

As for Poch - we’ve done this. They’ve spent loads but the project there is a fucking mess. He had a million new players to gel. His team showed improvement consistently as the season went on, got to one final and a semi final, and beat us home and away. They were behind us by inches when he was able to actually get a completely alien squad to click together. Meanwhile with Ange we’ve steadily got worse the more time he’s had and the more money spent.

I’m not in the sack ange camp (and hire who?) but your positive comparisons to these managers are beyond dishonest. Only somebody beyond deluded would ever claim Ange has done a better job here than Howe has at Newcastle.
 
sudoku or is it Werner who you think will finish the season on 15 G/A minimum?
Brennan has already scored and been involved in another goal so far. 2 in 5.
Werner I expect 3 goals this season.

 
I get people not necessarily thinking Ange is the messiah, but "out of his depth" and "dogshit" is fucking ridiculous. We've lost two games, to strong teams by the odd goal, having played well in both games and being skanked on the break in one and a set piece in the other.

Postecoglu managed to finish above Poch and his billion pound team and Howe and his Saudi backed team last season with a pretty shit/inexperienced PL team. How could that be described as "out of his depth"?

And I understand some people might not enjoy aggressive, front foot, high press, keep the ball football, but it's hardly "dogshit" is it. I mean, come on FFS, as Spurs fans most of you have seen plenty of dog shit football, and in the last few years too, this is definitely not that.

I'm pretty sure if anything, it's currently more a case of dogshit players who are out of their depth, than the coach.

So according to you all our players are shit, but the manager is fine? That is actually mental. We have lots of top players who are nowhere near close to performing because of our dogshit manager is making them play a shit system that they can't deliver in.

Sorry but the amount of people up Ange's ass on here when he is a 60 year old journeyman coach who has only ever won in Japan and Scotland is fucking mental. It's like a cult. I don't get it. What is there about him that makes anyone think he has the pedigree to have faith in him when we are getting worse and worse?
 
So according to you all our players are shit, but the manager is fine? That is actually mental. We have lots of top players who are nowhere near close to performing because of our dogshit manager is making them play a shit system that they can't deliver in.

Sorry but the amount of people up Ange's ass on here when he is a 60 year old journeyman coach who has only ever won in Japan and Scotland is fucking mental. It's like a cult. I don't get it. What is there about him that makes anyone think he has the pedigree to have faith in him when we are getting worse and worse?

We keep the ball and BC worships the ground possession coaches walk on. If we’re bossing games from a possession sense, he will rate that coach.
 
Brennan has already scored and been involved in another goal so far. 2 in 5.
Werner I expect 3 goals this season.


Ermmmm nope, he didn’t get a goal or an assist for the first one. And are we fuck counting league cup goals and assists, have a fucking day off.
 
Lol mate the audacity to say ‘Howe and his Saudi backed team’ - he took over a team hovering above RELEGATION and we have both a much higher wage bill and Ange has spent more than Howe. Newcastle badly wanted Solanke for example, couldn’t pay it. Ange has had way more resources than Howe you joker, imagine if Ange had to rely on the genuine championship level talent Howe did for most of last season !!! Burn, Krafth, Murphy, Longstaff…..

Bullshit. Howe's net spent 270m, Ange 240m.

And Ange has world class players like Johnson, Werner, Richarlison, Davies, Royal, Bentancur, Kulusevski, Udogie, Sarr?


As for Poch - we’ve done this. They’ve spent loads but the project there is a fucking mess.

Yes, we've done this, how come you can't remember when you're wrong. So when Chelsea spend a billion "it's a mess" but Ange inherits a club that had been in dire shape, playing bus park dogshit football, gets a quarter of what Poch gets value wise, most of it kids, players new to the league and dogshit but he's not cut the same slack as Poch and his impossible task?

He had a million new players to gel. His team showed improvement consistently as the season went on, got to one final and a semi final, and beat us home and away. They were behind us by inches when he was able to actually get a completely alien squad to click together. Meanwhile with Ange we’ve steadily got worse the more time he’s had and the more money spent.

We aren't getting worse. We are allowing fewer chances, conceding fewer goals, winning the ball better than anyone in the PL. lot's of things are getting better, we just can't fucking create/score goals, because we don't even have as good a "mess" Poch had last season. We added one fucking 18yo kid to our attack. Despite already having way more attacking quality and options than us, Chelsea went and added Neto and Sancho.

I’m not in the sack ange camp (and hire who?) but your positive comparisons to these managers are beyond dishonest. Only somebody beyond deluded would ever claim Ange has done a better job here than Howe has at Newcastle.

Straw man bullshit. I didn't say "better job" I used the example of the fact that despite the conditions - and the fact that Ange has actually net spent less than Howe has being one of them (and I also think Newcastle spent that 270m net better than our 240m net) - and Howe had had longer to coach his team, Ange still managed to finish above him as evidence that he isn't "out of his depth". Nobody was saying Howe is out of his depth or Poch was, so it's a fucking stupid thing to say about a coach who inherited a fucking mess, a team that needed a complete rebuild and hasn't bought a single top quality footballer, who managed to finish above him last year.
 
Bullshit. Howe's net spent 270m, Ange 240m.

And Ange has world class players like Johnson, Werner, Richarlison, Davies, Royal, Bentancur, Kulusevski, Udogie, Sarr?




Yes, we've done this, how come you can't remember when you're wrong. So when Chelsea spend a billion "it's a mess" but Ange inherits a club that had been in dire shape, playing bus park dogshit football, gets a quarter of what Poch gets value wise, most of it kids, players new to the league and dogshit but he's not cut the same slack as Poch and his impossible task?



We aren't getting worse. We are allowing fewer chances, conceding fewer goals, winning the ball better than anyone in the PL. lot's of things are getting better, we just can't fucking create/score goals, because we don't even have as good a "mess" Poch had last season. We added one fucking 18yo kid to our attack. Despite already having way more attacking quality and options than us, Chelsea went and added Neto and Sancho.



Straw man bullshit. I didn't say "better job" I used the example of the fact that despite the conditions - and the fact that Ange has actually net spent less than Howe has being one of them (and I also think Newcastle spent that 270m net better than our 240m net) - and Howe had had longer to coach his team, Ange still managed to finish above him as evidence that he isn't "out of his depth". Nobody was saying Howe is out of his depth or Poch was, so it's a fucking stupid thing to say about a coach who inherited a fucking mess, a team that needed a complete rebuild and hasn't bought a single top quality footballer, who managed to finish above him last year.

Ermmmm are you maybe counting the entire time Howe has been at the club? Which is longer than Ange? Since both have been there, there is absolutely zero chance Howe has spent more, lol. They practically didn’t sign someone this window. Their big signing last season got a betting ban for an entire fucking season ya jokester.

Oh please. You KNOW that list isn’t even comparable to the shit Howe inherited. Literal championship players. I don’t like Kulu but he’s a shit load superior to Jacob Murphy. Newcastle would fucking kill to have Udogie !!!!!!



Even if it was true - fuck me, Ange inherited a much better side including a 100m asset we sold. Nobody in the Newcastle team was even worth close to that when Howe took over.

Oh boohoo inheriting a team which was 8th. It was 4th the season before that with a coach there the entire season. And Poch inherited a team way below 8th. Money was spent on about five hundred players which = a season of adaptation. They consistently got a lot better, fucking schooled Ange in the second meeting after both had a season to work with their players. Our results fucking nosedived during the season.

Haha underlying metrics. Look at the points, nobody cares about doing better at things which aren’t getting you points.

His job isn’t even comparable to Howe and Poch got fucking sacked for his! Terrible bloody examples. Next you’ll cite Ten Haag who at least won something.

Our PPG for a very long period is dreadful. Our cup performances suck. Our big game results are dire. We had a halfway alright league season but are 13th. Lots of reasons to think he may be out of his depth.
 
Ermmmm are you maybe counting the entire time Howe has been at the club? Which is longer than Ange? Since both have been there, there is absolutely zero chance Howe has spent more, lol. They practically didn’t sign someone this window. Their big signing last season got a betting ban for an entire fucking season ya jokester.

Oh please. You KNOW that list isn’t even comparable to the shit Howe inherited. Literal championship players. I don’t like Kulu but he’s a shit load superior to Jacob Murphy. Newcastle would fucking kill to have Udogie !!!!!!



Even if it was true - fuck me, Ange inherited a much better side including a 100m asset we sold. Nobody in the Newcastle team was even worth close to that when Howe took over.

Oh boohoo inheriting a team which was 8th. It was 4th the season before that with a coach there the entire season. And Poch inherited a team way below 8th. Money was spent on about five hundred players which = a season of adaptation. They consistently got a lot better, fucking schooled Ange in the second meeting after both had a season to work with their players. Our results fucking nosedived during the season.

Haha underlying metrics. Look at the points, nobody cares about doing better at things which aren’t getting you points.

His job isn’t even comparable to Howe and Poch got fucking sacked for his! Terrible bloody examples. Next you’ll cite Ten Haag who at least won something.

Our PPG for a very long period is dreadful. Our cup performances suck. Our big game results are dire. We had a halfway alright league season but are 13th. Lots of reasons to think he may be out of his depth.

So Ange inherited a 100m player he never got to play? We sold Kane before he kicked a fucking ball in earnest for Ange.

OK, so nobody cares about anything but points. Thanks, that makes mine. Calling Ange out of his depth when he finished with more points than Howe or Poch last year is stupid.

The rest is just straw man bullshit I didn't argue.
 
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