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Player Pedro Porro

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Love the guy.

But let’s take a look at their two biggest chances: the offsides goal and the goal.

Offsides goal: Cross from left side, on ball defender is porro. Pressure on the ball is far too slow, allowing the opponent to pick his head up and hit a timed runner. Offsides by a fraction of a second.

Goal: cross from left side. On ball defender is porro. It’s 2-0 with 5 minutes left and he doesn’t show his defender centrally where he’s got the entire team to help him; he shows him wide where it’s 1v1. It’s a great cross and goal but it’s just far too easy to get off when we have the entire team behind the ball.

I just don’t get why he allows attackers acres of space to pick out whatever cross they want.
 
bonaspur23 said:
Love the guy.

But let’s take a look at their two biggest chances: the offsides goal and the goal.

Offsides goal: Cross from left side, on ball defender is porro. Pressure on the ball is far too slow, allowing the opponent to pick his head up and hit a timed runner. Offsides by a fraction of a second.

Goal: cross from left side. On ball defender is porro. It’s 2-0 with 5 minutes left and he doesn’t show his defender centrally where he’s got the entire team to help him; he shows him wide where it’s 1v1. It’s a great cross and goal but it’s just far too easy to get off when we have the entire team behind the ball.

I just don’t get why he allows attackers acres of space to pick out whatever cross they want.
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Very valid point. Usually his work in defence is closer to what he has shown yesterday, than vs United - where he was amazing in defence. Something he should still working on to reach top level consistenly. Going forward though - he was crucial yesterday in terms of ball movement.
 
bonaspur23 said:
Love the guy.

But let’s take a look at their two biggest chances: the offsides goal and the goal.

Offsides goal: Cross from left side, on ball defender is porro. Pressure on the ball is far too slow, allowing the opponent to pick his head up and hit a timed runner. Offsides by a fraction of a second.

Goal: cross from left side. On ball defender is porro. It’s 2-0 with 5 minutes left and he doesn’t show his defender centrally where he’s got the entire team to help him; he shows him wide where it’s 1v1. It’s a great cross and goal but it’s just far too easy to get off when we have the entire team behind the ball.

I just don’t get why he allows attackers acres of space to pick out whatever cross they want.
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You fundamentally don't show an attacker inside.
 
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Airfixx said:
You fundamentally don't show an attacker inside.
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You say this but I'm up against a player in Fatboy Footy tonight with an absolute beast of a left foot. He's got the Johnson finish of shot across goal to the far corner perfected on the left.

I'll be pushing him inside onto his right every single time.

Slightly lower level like but otherwise almost exactly the same.

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bonaspur23 said:
I just don’t get why he allows attackers acres of space to pick out whatever cross they want.
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I think leaving the space out wide in our final 1/3rd must be part of the system. We almost encourage balls into those areas, and often seem quite slow to get out to that man. I can only assume that this is fine with Postecoglou. I reckon he sees it as very low percentage risk of crosses from those areas being dangerous. If they decide to drive into the box he must think the full back and centre back on that side have enough to nullify the threat.

It kind of goes hand in hand with us playing many more low balls into the box rather than crossing head high from wide areas. I think it's a central tenet of his philosophy. You can't deny all options, so lets allow the one that we think is least likely to give up a goal.
 
Rocket said:
I think leaving the space out wide in our final 1/3rd must be part of the system. We almost encourage balls into those areas, and often seem quite slow to get out to that man. I can only assume that this is fine with Postecoglou. I reckon he sees it as very low percentage risk of crosses from those areas being dangerous. If they decide to drive into the box he must think the full back and centre back on that side have enough to nullify the threat.

It kind of goes hand in hand with us playing many more low balls into the box rather than crossing head high from wide areas. I think it's a central tenet of his philosophy. You can't deny all options, so let’s allow the one that we think is least likely to give up a goal.
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When it comes to allowing crosses with minimal pressure, I’ve really only noticed it from Porro’s side. And it was extreme last season but less so this season.

I also thought maybe it was part of the managing instructions but to my eye, porro is now closing down more quickly than last season, which makes me think it may not be.

I totally get backing off a rashford or a speedster that may not have the skill to pick out a runner but could beat porro 1v1 if porro is too close and leaves room in behind.

But unless it’s a 2 on 1 or 3 on 2, there is almost no reason to play off of slower players that aren’t going to dribble by you. Giving a player time and space in the final 3rd does not benefit the defense at all so why do it?
 
bonaspur23 said:
When it comes to allowing crosses with minimal pressure, I’ve really only noticed it from Porro’s side. And it was extreme last season but less so this season.

I also thought maybe it was part of the managing instructions but to my eye, porro is now closing down more quickly than last season, which makes me think it may not be.

I totally get backing off a rashford or a speedster that may not have the skill to pick out a runner but could beat porro 1v1 if porro is too close and leaves room in behind.

But unless it’s a 2 on 1 or 3 on 2, there is almost no reason to play off of slower players that aren’t going to dribble by you. Giving a player time and space in the final 3rd does not benefit the defense at all so why do it?
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Huh, first paragraph - this has happened today again, hasn't it? Welbeck got one sitter and one half chance he nearly scored. Both in first half, when we in theory were flying and dominating. All from Porro side. Could be easily 2:2 before half-time.
 
Rocket said:
I think leaving the space out wide in our final 1/3rd must be part of the system. We almost encourage balls into those areas, and often seem quite slow to get out to that man. I can only assume that this is fine with Postecoglou. I reckon he sees it as very low percentage risk of crosses from those areas being dangerous. If they decide to drive into the box he must think the full back and centre back on that side have enough to nullify the threat.

It kind of goes hand in hand with us playing many more low balls into the box rather than crossing head high from wide areas. I think it's a central tenet of his philosophy. You can't deny all options, so lets allow the one that we think is least likely to give up a goal.
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haha total bs - why dont you claim no defense is part of the system
 
invcho said:
Still awful defense-wise - Mitoma had an easy game yday. Pedro, as always, was dumb, stupid, lazy, complacent
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his defending needs serious work, allows crosses to come in too easy by not getting close enough. im not sure id call him lazy though. the thing is he probably doesnt get as close as he should because hes worried about getting skinned. either way he needs to improve on this.
 
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