This conversation is like when scientists asked why cereal gets soggy when you put milk on it.
Why are the teams at the bottom of the league there??
And how do teams win the league??
Does anybody really fucking wonder this??????
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This conversation is like when scientists asked why cereal gets soggy when you put milk on it.
Why are the teams at the bottom of the league there??
And how do teams win the league??
Does anybody really fucking wonder this??????
Bar Liverpool, our defence is as good as the top teams right now in terms of goals conceded.
We're also one of the most high scoring (the highest?) teams in the league.
We're not even a third into the season. It's just so early to be making any sort of judgement, barring exceptional catastrophe or exceptional excellence, both of which we have not met right now (and none of the top teams have).
We're also one of the most high scoring (the highest?) teams in the league.
We're not even a third into the season. It's just so early to be making any sort of judgement, barring exceptional catastrophe or exceptional excellence, both of which we have not met right now (and none of the top teams have).
This conversation is like one of those conversations when one of the 2 people conversing has NFI what he other person meant and then spends hours arguing with them anyway.
It's good to see how convincing our wins are.
4-0
3-1
3-0
4-1
All of our wins have seen us beat the opponent by 2+ goals at the very least. Three of them have been by 3 goals.
Last seasons we managed to only win by 3+ goals four times across the whole league season. Two of the teams got relegated, the other two being Newcastle and Villa.
There are four teams in the entire league who have still yet to win a single game and we haven't played any of them yet.
Depending on how Palace do tonight, two of our next three games are against two of those teams. With the other being against a team we smashed 4-0 away last time we met.
I wouldn't swap one of our current defenders today for what we had in 2017.
Porro - Romero - VDV - Udogie
Vs
Walker - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose.
It's no contest to me. I feel they're better individually and as a unit. The centre backs played together for club and country, it's hard to beat a partnership like that. Walker/Porro are comparable, but walkers athleticism to bail himself out is far better than porro. Rose is better than udogie defensively, but I have high hopes for udogie, despite his recent poor form costing us goals. There's no defender from 2017 who can do what vdv can do though. That would be some back 3.
Though if you put dembele in today's side instead of bissouma, I think we'd be a lot better.
I think you're right that we definitely don't work on it as much, vdv is perfect for the system because I feel we're expecting to get caught out and he's there to bail us out. There is a lot of potential in our unit though and I think with the right coaching it can be pretty formidable.
Logic last season was playing those relegation type teams was “hard”.
“No easy games” they shout!
I’m guessing it’s the same this year although those teams are clearly fucking shite.
Why can't you just fuck off you clown
We're just simply better offensively. We move the ball better, The movements better. Solanke a huge part of it.
It's quite clear. Stats back it up, eye test backs it up. Results back it up.
We're creating chances at almost ease and truth be told, we're starting to get alot more clinical with it. Whereas at times last season we were quite slow, a bit more predictable and pretty wasteful, especially when Son was up top and unable to do actual striker things.
Your Club? This magnificent Club doesn't deserve cunts like you following it
Your village is missing it's idiot, try and find your way back
It's so easy to make comments like that.
What part was wrong?
Other than the fact Fulham actually battered us, so our PPG Vs the current top 10 is even worse.
It was a good tactical game by Ange. That Sarr change was genius. Let's hope this continues. If we can get some consistency playing like this. I give him massive credit for the win.
Most teams pick up their points most consistently from the lower half of the league- that's how the league table sorts itself out, you know? Only the top 1 or 2 teams in the league pick up points against all opponents- and that's why those teams are in a 'title race'.
Ange for sure has done poorly when it comes to big games. He says learning the system is more important that immediate results. We can't evaluate that statement until it comes true or not in the future, but, it hasn't been decided one way or the other yet. The latest win vs West Ham does look promising though.
Watched the West Ham game with a mate who is a Fulham fan, his first thought after the game was that if we got Joao Palhinha type, someone who just loves defending then we would be cooking. I think an actual defensive midfielder is someone who we will need to find to do well in the big games against top sides.
Agree with that assessment.
Sure, as proportion, that us true. But the best teams pick more up agains the top half than us.
But again - my comment was purely to the person who said "ange is good"
Good at beating bottom half teams.
Not good at beating top half team.
Factually correct and non-debatable. Wasn't talking about anyone else. Just ange.
Anyone with a brain knows he is.
He doesn’t need validation from ‘the other sort’
It’s a real problem with the defence as they are good enough players but switch off badly at crucial moments!
