Listen to this wet little bitch.
Fuck off.
Guy rarely even turns up for us - saves those performances for his national side - now encouraging us to hang onto this dud of a manager.
Get out as well.
Piss take.
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Listen to this wet little bitch.
Fuck off.
Guy rarely even turns up for us - saves those performances for his national side - now encouraging us to hang onto this dud of a manager.
Get out as well.
Piss take.
I think we can safely say that at his age, Spurs is the biggest job Ange will ever have in football.
You both may well be correct. I have no doubt that our style of play contributes to injuries and Ange is also to blame for green lighting our poor transfer window.
But it's very easy to work backwards from the result and conclude the style of play is fatally flawed.
Football is a game of small margins- if we get Mitoma and Mbuemo on either flank, this style could transform from suicide-ball to overwhelming opposition.
Whilst there is an element of truth to what you're saying, I don't think you've quite hit the nail on the head here.
How was today (i thought you werent going to watch it btw) absolutist all or nothing football?
At 2-0 we were still more playing on the counter than some kind of suicidal high line.
Sancho scored with pur entire defense in front of him.
Am I missing what happened here?
I will stand by the Ange is the right man for the club and the system does work. Our issue is that the players are not of consistent enough quality to execute it.
We should have been 3 up after 12 minutes. Udogie with a VERY poor miss.
- Sancho ran past 4 of our players completely unchallenged; and then Bissouma with the most pathetic attempt to block I have ever seen.
- Bissouma again with an absolutely stupid challenge in the box
- Sarr, again, stupid
- The Fernandes goal; we had overloaded the ball with 4 players attacking just Palmer. He manages to skip past all 4 of them link they are not there.
- At 67 mins we missed a clear chance for Son to score the winner.
Bissouma is TERRIBLE and Sarr is not ready. We are losing games because we don't have a capable midfield 2. Players are able to get into dangerous positions since our full backs aren't being helped out and our midfields positioning is all over the place.
If we want to improve, we don't need to ditch the manager - we need to sign the very best midfielder available - and quite simply we cannot because that player will be in demand by every club in Europe; and we will never compete on wages.
We should have been 3 up after 12 minutes. Udogie with a VERY poor miss.
- Sancho ran past 4 of our players completely unchallenged; and then Bissouma with the most pathetic attempt to block I have ever seen.
- Bissouma again with an absolutely stupid challenge in the box
- Sarr, again, stupid
- The Fernandes goal; we had overloaded the ball with 4 players attacking just Palmer. He manages to skip past all 4 of them link they are not there.
- At 67 mins we missed a clear chance for Son to score the winner.
Bissouma is TERRIBLE and Sarr is not ready. We are losing games because we don't have a capable midfield 2. Players are able to get into dangerous positions since our full backs aren't being helped out and our midfields positioning is all over the place.
If we want to improve, we don't need to ditch the manager - we need to sign the very best midfielder available - and quite simply we cannot because that player will be in demand by every club in Europe; and we will never compete on wages.
a) "the only two who have ambition" lolz wtf wut???
b) sack him (gfy cunti).
Sounds legit
He's a gaslighting narcissist.
He's toxic and needs to fuck off.
Faux humility, zero accountability, all about keeping his ego cozy and warm.
His tenure smelling like rotten eggs.
Need fresh air.
We were about as chaotic as you can get. We played at full octane the entire match.
Watch it back again and I'd be surprised if you disagreed. We had players charging round like headless chickens, vacating spaces, showing zero discipline constantly. We later gave away two penalties due to the clumsy/erratic nature of our play. It was like our entire team had snorted a line prior to the game.
That's absolutely fine and what you want early on in a derby but when we were 2-0 up we kept doing it ... we then kept doing it at 2-1 so it was constant chaos/turnovers in midfield to the point of dizziness. That was the game Chelsea wanted badly at this stage as it gives them the best chance to get back in to it.
We never start playing smart - drawing in fouls, frustrating the opponent, making the most of a lead .. just keep playing the same dice roll way until we conceded twice.
He could be great at the likes of City imo.
Like I said, his style of play is based on maximizing the variance factor and overcoming the opposition through sheer individual brilliance of his players. It doesn't matter how many chances you give, if you simply have much better players that would convert their chances at a higher rate. To formalize it:
1) Create no less xG (how this is calculated is irrelevant here) than opposition. Or at least not significantly less
2) Convert those xG into actual goals at a higher rate than opposition -thanks to much higher quality of players-
3) Profit
Isn't this the definition of being chequebook though? You know, the term people use in criticising the likes of Guardiola? Don't the same people argue that he would be a colossal failure without an absolutely stacked team ? Well we essentially got ourselves a budget Guardiola then. People optimistic about Ange seems to be making this point.
"Give him what Pep has, and watch him destroy anything coming his way!"
The obvious question is why? Why would he (and not anyone else) enjoy this kind of a privilege? Is it because he's already here? Is it because Celtic gave it to him once and it seemed to work in Scottish League? What's the argument here? You're essentially admitting that he's not capable of creating a whole bigger than the sum of its parts, he needs all stars to be aligned for his approach to work. That's the exact opposite of how this club operates though. That's the issue.
Like I said, his style of play is based on maximizing the variance factor and overcoming the opposition through sheer individual brilliance of his players. It doesn't matter how many chances you give, if you simply have much better players that would convert their chances at a higher rate. To formalize it:
1) Create no less xG (how this is calculated is irrelevant here) than opposition. Or at least not significantly less
2) Convert those xG into actual goals at a higher rate than opposition -thanks to much higher quality of players-
3) Profit
Isn't this the definition of being chequebook though? You know, the term people use in criticising the likes of Guardiola? Don't the same people argue that he would be a colossal failure without an absolutely stacked team ? Well we essentially got ourselves a budget Guardiola then. People optimistic about Ange seems to be making this point.
"Give him what Pep has, and watch him destroy anything coming his way!"
The obvious question is why? Why would he (and not anyone else) enjoy this kind of a privilege? Is it because he's already here? Is it because Celtic gave it to him once and it seemed to work in Scottish League? What's the argument here? You're essentially admitting that he's not capable of creating a whole bigger than the sum of its parts, he needs all stars to be aligned for his approach to work. That's the exact opposite of how this club operates though. That's the issue.
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mmmate -surely you;re joking/jesting
lack of investment -since 2022- we are (top) 3rd on the spending-list
the people who are not spending are Forest, brighton & Bmouth - as examples
* Risky angeball caused to many giveaways and hammies
* ange hand picked several of the 'mediocre' ones which you are alluding to
how much more investment do you want? 500M and 2 more seasons?
I don’t dislike Ange, but see where you’re coming from in that his approach actually suits a club like City. I know I’ve said this before (and I believe some others as well), Levy and ENIC are going nowhere, despite all our hopes and wishes, so we have to get a manager who can play smart and squeeze everything he can out of the squad we do spend on and assemble. It may not be the swashbuckling football Ange has promised, but I’m not sure we want moments of that football only to lose to Ipswich and be outplayed by Fulham at home, because we don’t have the squad to sustain the Ange way.
Coaches have nothing to do with transfers. Sure, they may have the final yes/no decision, but they don't go out scouting players - there is an entire department doing this.
We have always had injury problems at the club. Mourinho's squad had lost all of our best players to injury. How many times did Kane break at the crucial moment?
Meanwhile, in Liverpool's best seasons Van Dyke, Alex Arnold, Salah and Robertson played almost every minute of every game, playing a similar high pace style.
My suspicion is that we are not pumping our players with the same *ahem* supplements some of the other clubs are using and we get more injuries because of it.
///Coaches have nothing to do with transfers. Sure, they may have the final yes/no decision, but they don't go out scouting players - there is an entire department doing this.
well you're wrong there- for ange any way.
I am sure he does his "scouting" at spurs - he also scouts watching live matches and videos.
Back in Celtic and Yokohama - he was already scouting. subsequently he targeted a few japanese players from his own club and rival clubs; His 'other department' is Levy - the cheque book dept.
I'm still with you mate.
Equal 2nd best attack in the league, 6th best defence in the league with a severely depleted squad.
Yes we still have players that make too many mistakes but when we play well we can beat anybody.
There was a lot more work to do with those two goals than the two mindless pens we gifted them...
170 for those three my goodness. I rate solanke, simpatize with Brennan and think richarlison is not a bad player, but they are worth half of that but sign of our imbecile recruitment
It could still be a possibility, City just need to be found guilty and relegated 6 divisions
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I think the point might be that we spent a lot on transfers, but didn’t get top quality. Probably because we don’t spend a lot on transfers AND wages. It’s one or the other. We spent for the future. I quite like who we bought (biss is pissing me off), but our squad isn’t good enough yet.
Ange also hasn’t been top quality. But we’ll see how the season ends.
///Coaches have nothing to do with transfers. Sure, they may have the final yes/no decision, but they don't go out scouting players - there is an entire department doing this.
well you're wrong there- for ange any way.
I am sure he does his "scouting" at spurs - he also scouts watching live matches and videos.
Back in Celtic and Yokohama - he was already scouting. subsequently he targeted a few japanese players from his own club and rival clubs; His 'other department' is Levy - the cheque book dept.
Lol. Do you really think football coaches have the time to be watching tapes and Live games of other players matches? Every spare minute is spent working on the players he has and looking at opponents.
They are provided with a scouting report from our scouting department. This will include in depth analysis on their style and ability.