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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
This is fucking chilling. I think half the people pretending we have to keep Ange for whatever reason don't really care. They don't go to games have never seen us win trophies. Spurs hasn't been part of their life. It's just a fun online pass time like an extension of fantasy football.

That's fine it's cool, I'm not judging but I've given thousands to this team. I've been up and down the country and all over Europe. I've worked for the club four years ago ( and I was stupidly proud). Nutter-Naylor Nutter-Naylor Mrs Perryman Mrs Perryman Murphy Murphy Bazali Bazali Cranston Cranston SpaggyBoy SpaggyBoy there's loads of us been committed to Spurs in a real and lived way for decades. We genuinely hurt watching this children's football.

I don't expect massive budgets and billions on players but I expect competence. And I'm telling anyone that genuinely cares that competence is beyond this coach and his assistants. Standards are so low now that there's people think we can't do better, when short term that's the easiest bit to correct. But don't dig out anyone who wants him gone immediately in whatever way possible because we earned the right to speak the truth.

Didnt watch the Liverpool game and didn't watch today (even though I have Discovery+) as I had little to no hope of us winning. Or even looking like winning.

I am doing Wolves. Purely to meet up with an old work colleague (Derby) who is taking his 11 year old son to his first Spurs game. I did try and warn him that his boy would be in for a lifetime of pain and disappointment.

But at that age you don't know any better do you?

This will be my 5th Spurs game this season so you could say even at my age I don't know any better.
 
This is fucking chilling. I think half the people pretending we have to keep Ange for whatever reason don't really care. They don't go to games have never seen us win trophies. Spurs hasn't been part of their life. It's just a fun online pass time like an extension of fantasy football.

That's fine it's cool, I'm not judging but I've given thousands to this team. I've been up and down the country and all over Europe. I've worked for the club four years ago ( and I was stupidly proud). Nutter-Naylor Nutter-Naylor Mrs Perryman Mrs Perryman Murphy Murphy Bazali Bazali Cranston Cranston SpaggyBoy SpaggyBoy there's loads of us been committed to Spurs in a real and lived way for decades. We genuinely hurt watching this children's football.

I don't expect massive budgets and billions on players but I expect competence. And I'm telling anyone that genuinely cares that competence is beyond this coach and his assistants. Standards are so low now that there's people think we can't do better, when short term that's the easiest bit to correct. But don't dig out anyone who wants him gone immediately in whatever way possible because we earned the right to speak the truth.
I’ve spent money on the club in the past. I think everyone who posts on this forum gives this club enough of their time to care. There is no cult of Ange, the only cult everyone in here (well, i wonder at times with some) is in, is the cult of Spurs.

I don’t and haven’t given the club as much as you sound like you have but although I struggle to care since the end of Conte, I’d love to see this club succeed and I’d love to see it for the more dedicated people like those you tagged. I just don’t think we will get that success if we don’t break that culture of flip flopping from project to project.

I get that you think this manager is incompetent and maybe I don’t know football as well as you but I just don’t think it’s ever as simple as fans think it is. Our form is sackable and if a new manager comes in, I hope you get the relief from what you are dead set on as being at fault. I have my reservations about that making any real difference though.
 
I understand people hate Levy & ENIC but people are saying if we get rid of him they win?

Using the same logic isn't supporting this club in any way shape or form winning for them?

For me, I'd like to get back to a stage of not hating the manager for talking pure deranged shit
 
I understand people hate Levy & ENIC but people are saying if we get rid of him they win?

Using the same logic isn't supporting this club in any way shape or form winning for them?

For me, I'd like to get back to a stage of not hating the manager for talking pure deranged shit
What many in the Ange-out camp
Are saying is that yes Levy is our underlying problem. And stops us winning the league no matter who the coach is. But this coach is pony. He’s tactically dreadful. And the Levy/ENIC model absolutely provides funds for much better performance than this
 
What many in the Ange-out camp
Are saying is that yes Levy is our underlying problem. And stops us winning the league no matter who the coach is. But this coach is pony. He’s tactically dreadful. And the Levy/ENIC model absolutely provides funds for much better performance than this

I get that & I get that Levy & ENIC would of hired Scott Munn

Ange is a Scott Munn pic
 
I actually would

I would not bet on success under another manager however. It’s always a risk. But it’s got to the point where it’s rational to believe it’s likely to be better under a Frank or Iraola than under Ange
Well, we are really struggling atm so the new manager bounce and/or the return to the mean could definitely be worth a bet on a short term uptick in form.

I guess people have reached the point where they need that quick hit of relief and I don’t blame them. Where it leads us is another thing.
 
Yep, fair post, although it's also possible that stronger characters may have called this paucity of performance and results out.

I guess it's how you choose to look at it.
I don't see any strong characters that would have the audacity to call him out on anything. He's lucky in this respect, not that I'm a fan of players downing tools to get a manager out. It sets a bad precedent that better be avoided. Especially on a team like ours that features so many young players.

Around half of the regulars are under 25, most of whom are too busy trying to earn a permanent place in the club. Turning against a manager could easily jeopardize their future here.

Some veterans like Reguillon, Richarlison, Werner and Bissouma barely play or contribute so they can't possibly have any leverage against any manager.

Some like Romero,Bentancur and Son may be on their way out anyway, so it'd be a fruitless endeavor for them.

Davies and Forster are the two other remaining seniors but they're too low on the pecking order -barring injuries of course- to have any significant impact.

That covers pretty much everybody I think. This is not the Moyes-Utd situation where he picked up a squad full of proven winners. Ange, with his Scottish and Australian league titles, is more decorated than most of his players right now.
 
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They’re likely right tbh, I’d say there’s a solid chance that he leaves here and takes Hyundai Zebras to a Korean cup double season after next.

Then sits smugly in press conferences telling everyone he can win anywhere if given time completely not looking at context
 
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