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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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bk_spur said:
If Brentford win today vs Brighton we'll be 12th in the table with more or less half the season played. If Brighton win we'll be 5 points away from the top half of the table.

It's hard to understand how a more clear signal as to Ange's underperformance could be conveyed.
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They drew- we're now in 12th place, 5pts off 7th place and Europe, and 11 pts off 4th and Champions League.

If we lose versus Wolves we're on pace for 46 pts for the season. If we win versus Wolves we're on pace for 52 pts for the season.
 
Larry David said:
I had a slight wobble yesterday over Ange, but then slept on it and remembered he isn’t the true villain, just last in a long line of poor bastards left in the lurch by the cunts in charge

I’ll stand by Ange till the end, like I have with all managers bar Mourinho
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A momentary lapse in the programming is all it was.

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Tomo said:
If it’s Southgate the phrase ‘’fold the club’’ becomes relevant. That would be the worst hiring probably in our history at least last 30-40 years.
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Southgate would 100% be doing a better job than Ange right now.

Football would be atrocious (I'd stop watching which I'm close to now anyway as we are so diabolical under The Fraud) but he would have us better organised, would make adjustments to compensate for the missing players/weaknesses, and wouldn't just be wedded to some philosophy.
 
Larry David said:
I had a slight wobble yesterday over Ange, but then slept on it and remembered he isn’t the true villain, just last in a long line of poor bastards left in the lurch by the cunts in charge

I’ll stand by Ange till the end, like I have with all managers bar Mourinho
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Larry,

You’re overthinking it. We all know ENIC are the fundamental problem. Their intransigence prohibits true success.

But any manager can still get judged on basic stuff. The bread and butter of building a team. Ange is limited, one dimensional, inexperienced at this level and obstinate. An elite coach has to demonstrate more sophistication.

Replacing him doesn’t alter the overall position with ENIC.
 
I try to come on here and find some hope and then i read Southgate's name and I just realised we haven't even gotten close to rock bottom yet. This never ending loop of misery still has another few gears to go
 
Tomo said:
Tactics would be to sit very deep then Romero to boot it long to Solanke and for Kulu and Son to make a mad dash. Repeat a thousand times. Sterling would be bought from Chelsea and Rashford from United to make us better at it.
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That not really how England played under him,........also Sterling and Rashford were dumped for the recent euros

Southgate can be mocked for a few things but what you say makes no sense at all
 
Cranston said:
Larry,

You’re overthinking it. We all know ENIC are the fundamental problem. Their intransigence prohibits true success.

But any manager can still get judged on basic stuff. The bread and butter of building a team. Ange is limited, one dimensional, inexperienced at this level and obstinate. An elite coach has to demonstrate more sophistication.

Replacing him doesn’t alter the overall position with ENIC.
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It's also hilariously dumb because if you're going to want to stick by a coach to "change" the way ENIC operate (which will never happen anyway but let's do fiction) then you throw absolute support behind a Conte, not an Ange. Ange hasn't said a word against this board. He has repeatedly praised us in the transfer market. He is marching to ENIC's tune because he doesn't have the pedigree to risk standing against them, this guy is the absolute worst candidate if you want to go board vs coach.

But the sheer single mindedness of it is very Ange so I'll give his loyalists credit for that. Ultimately I dislike ENIC and do believe there is a ceiling for our coaches which we will likely never smash through under them. But Ange is in the fucking basement, we're atrocious. Case by case basis lads, if there is a coach worth sticking by I'll do it ... this donkey can't beat Ipswich at home, can't look a journalist in the eye and has us losing 3 more than Dyche's Everton.

He's absolutely diabolical. And he has no past history worth throwing faith behind, its all success that absolutely was never going to be close to having a guarantee of translating to Premier League success, no matter what the fuckwits said. 12th place at Christmas with Newcastle, Woolwich and Goodison on the horizon is terrifyingly shit and would be under-performance if bloody Mike Ashley was at the helm.
 
I swear some people check for Southgate under their bed. Afraid of the club to do anything in case the boogeyman of Southgate is going to get you.

Hiring Southgate would not make changing this manager the wrong decision. It would just mean that we've followed up a good decision with an utterly gormless one. Which we've done before in fairness.

But, in all honesty I'm not sure I see Southgate managing anyone anytime soon, let alone us. I think he's even said that he wants to take some time out and do some other things.
 
Deuterz said:
It's also hilariously dumb because if you're going to want to stick by a coach to "change" the way ENIC operate (which will never happen anyway but let's do fiction) then you throw absolute support behind a Conte, not an Ange. Ange hasn't said a word against this board. He has repeatedly praised us in the transfer market. He is marching to ENIC's tune because he doesn't have the pedigree to risk standing against them, this guy is the absolute worst candidate if you want to go board vs coach.

But the sheer single mindedness of it is very Ange so I'll give his loyalists credit for that. Ultimately I dislike ENIC and do believe there is a ceiling for our coaches which we will likely never smash through under them. But Ange is in the fucking basement, we're atrocious. Case by case basis lads, if there is a coach worth sticking by I'll do it ... this donkey can't beat Ipswich at home, can't look a journalist in the eye and has us losing 3 more than Dyche's Everton.

He's absolutely diabolical. And he has no past history worth throwing faith behind, its all success that absolutely was never going to be close to having a guarantee of translating to Premier League success, no matter what the fuckwits said. 12th place at Christmas with Newcastle, Woolwich and Goodison on the horizon is terrifyingly shit and would be under-performance if bloody Mike Ashley was at the helm.
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Not read past the first few lines of this but at some point you have to just back the manager to the tilt. Many couldn't do that under Conte and look where it's got the club. Now's your chance to do so again before we fall further again to all of this BS. You not realising that is what's "hilariously dumb" my friend.
 
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