How many have they had in the last 5 years?
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Yeh it was many times when we used Sterling and Rashford not saying it wasn’t effective but it was pretty basic in set up.
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Yeah keep backing Ange otherwise we could fall REALLY far. Like as low as 12th in the table with a tough fixture run coming up..
Oh fucking wait.
Honestly, I'll back a manager to the hilt who deserves to be backed to the hilt. Conte had all the qualifications and was/is a hugely competent individual but NEVER wanted to be at Tottenham regardless of owners so it was an exercise in futility. Ange is out of his depth. I don't need to back any out of his depth person for a role by default.
The fact that Palmer wasn’t the first name on the team sheet at the euros tells you everything you need to know about Southgate, the guy probably puts a condom on to have a wank just to be on the safe side.
Basic would actually be fine right now. Fuck off the philosophy as we're in a dogfight and focus on winning 3 points every week and take it game by game. Get some sort of organisation back that protects the backline, nothing wrong with lobbing some balls forward for Solanke now and again either.
We are in an absolute state so back to basics is likely what a competent coach will do mid-season. Southgate is never coming here so not sure why people are worried about it anyway, he's essentially a politician now.
Southgate started early days playing sit deep defend then pass to Kane who puts Rashford and Sterling in. It worked well for a good period. When he started using Foden and Palmer more technical intricate players his system didn’t work so well. Sterling gets laughed at but he creates havoc and disruption. Sterling and Rashford are great for teams who sit and counter into space.
Problem is we tried that with the grand master Jose Mourinho, we tried it with Nuno and it didn’t work. Jose and Nuno are arguably better managers but it doesn’t fit our club.
Tbh in euro 2024 we had enough quality in squad to limp to the final. The entire tournament we looked devoid of ideas under southgate. Thats what would worry me if we had southgate as our manager....devoid of ideas.
Even after 18 months with Ange, our squad is still most suited for a 3 at the back. Tuchel or Potter could probably make it work quickly.
You have to be careful though throwing the baby out with the bath water. We are building towards a team that is possessions oriented attacking football, we can amend that to a more cautious nature but it would be foolish to switch to a counter attack style. Our recruitment would then need to be binned and started all over.
If Ange goes it needs to be a Irola type not a Sean Dyche type.
That England team on paper was also miles and miles better than the Spurs team
Yeah I agree - this would be as a temporary rest of season thing. Someone coming in now would be a plaster fix imo, a temporary measure to stabilise the squad to get us in a reasonable position for an Iraola to take over. I think even most intelligent attacking coaches right now focus on the basic stuff.
Lol why are you making things up..... 50 times a match...... not even close. Probably not even 10
Just seemed in euro 2024 the players were on autopilot. Had enough quality to limp to final. Not sure fatigue was a factor. Moral of the story though is I dont want southgate or potter. Too timid.
i get everyone's frustrations i really do but you take away THE 4 most important players out of any team and they will struggle.
Vic, VDV, Rom, Benta make up the spine of this team and everything that starts and ends with them and they are all out.
look at ManC without Rodri, Look at Woolwich without Odegarde, struggled big time, and spurs have 4 OUT.
have you ever seen a team in 12th place half way through the season with the second most goals scored and the 3rd best goal difference? surely that must mean something?
Vic, VDV, Rom, Benta make up the spine of this team and everything that starts and ends with them and they are all out.
look at ManC without Rodri, Look at Woolwich without Odegarde, struggled big time, and spurs have 4 OUT.
have you ever seen a team in 12th place half way through the season with the second most goals scored and the 3rd best goal difference? surely that must mean something?
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embarrassing that even goldstein has clocked on that he's not even a football manager loooool
But that’s the point isn’t it?, he’s lost those players and plowed on regardless with the same tactics etc, that’s total ineptitude or at best ridiculously naive is it not?
never mind the fact his kamikaze shit puts players at risk of getting injured anyway, he fucking rushed two back when they clearly wasnt ready! putting their careers at risk. fucking horrendous stuff.
Just fucking stop it. Please. It's so bullshit. I don't know if some of you are on the wind up continuing this drivel narrative but its honestly insanity at this point.
We were already 8th/9th prior to injuries. People have repeatedly posted that we are now on some insane run (going back like a year or more!) of the worst PPG in our modern history. With all this information available you have zero excuse to continue to try and hide behind injuries. Many of us didn't want him here BEFORE we had the injury crisis because he was already doing badly.
Our goal difference is the most misleading bullshit I've ever seen. We are toothless in competitive games vs organised sides but fill our boots vs Southampton and score 3 meaningless goals against Liverpool when the game was dead. Bournemouth and Forest limited us so easily.