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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Long term decision. Sacking him now with no real plan is just a much bigger mess. We have no fit centre backs atm so no manager is going to come in and quickly get us results. Until we get our players back then we are a midtable team at best.

Best to just let Ange ride out this spell of injuries and see where we are come May. Tthen make the correct calculated decision when you have more evidence of exactly where we are in this rebuild. Sacking him now and gambling on a free agent like Potter could risk everything... If we are replacing Ange then lets make sure we get the right man (Iraolo) in for next season
See where we are come MAY? You cannot honestly be suggesting we keep him for the season if our current form continues surely?
 
If we already have a full time manager to replace Ange, then the best time is to get him in now, so that he can get in 2/3 players in the coming TW to steady the ship until the summer, when he can replace more players in the squad
 
See where we are come MAY? You cannot honestly be suggesting we keep him for the season if our current form continues surely?
I probably would as things stand. I wouldn't sack him and bring in a new manager while we have around 8 players injured. Its too much of a mess for anyone to come into. I'd wait it out and see how we look once VDV and Romero are back.

Its much easier to make the correct calculated decision when the season is over and we have all the evidence we need to see exactly where we are in this rebuild /project. Doing something kneejerk in the middle of the season while we have a game every 3 days and are missing anywhere between 7-11 players most games, is just too kneejerk for me. Its short term thinking looking for some quick relief but has the potential to set us back years if we get it wrong! We need to get the next managerial position right and need to know exactly where we are at before hiring someone.
 
Feels like it’s every few days where we say if he loses the next game he will be gone. But it really must be coming to a head now. He can’t survive a loss but I don’t get what we are waiting for. Even if he wins he should get sacked, because it is clear he isn’t the person to get behind.

If we lost tomorrow to a rejuvenated Wolves team, and by the way I really can see us losing, then Ange has nowhere to go. His position would be totally untenable. Wolves have a decent recent record at our stadium, and I really can see a defeat with the way we are playing.

It’s just a matter of when not if now, so better to just make the change now.

I would go all out for Iraola. Southgate and Potter would be awful hires. And if we went for Ange to Southgate it would be a clear sign that Lange and Levy are total clowns. Although I have no doubt Southgate can do a better job than Ange, the football would be dour. Potter looks increasingly average as time goes by and no thanks on more Chelsea rejects.

It simply has to be Iraola which is why it probably won’t be because you just know the club will fk up the decision. These are the same people who appointed Ange in the first place. Literally the worst manage we’ve had in decades.

If all the pundits and ex players can see it, how can the board and an increasingly dwindling and deluded portion of the fan base not see it?

We made a massive gamble on this guy and it’s been a disaster. Well done Levy and Munn. Now just right your mistake please now.
 
Feels like it’s every few days where we say if he loses the next game he will be gone. But it really must be coming to a head now. He can’t survive a loss but I don’t get what we are waiting for. Even if he wins he should get sacked, because it is clear he isn’t the person to get behind.

If we lost tomorrow to a rejuvenated Wolves team, and by the way I really can see us losing, then Ange has nowhere to go. His position would be totally untenable. Wolves have a decent recent record at our stadium, and I really can see a defeat with the way we are playing.

It’s just a matter of when not if now, so better to just make the change now.

I would go all out for Iraola. Southgate and Potter would be awful hires. And if we went for Ange to Southgate it would be a clear sign that Lange and Levy are total clowns. Although I have no doubt Southgate can do a better job than Ange, the football would be dour. Potter looks increasingly average as time goes by and no thanks on more Chelsea rejects.

It simply has to be Iraola which is why it probably won’t be because you just know the club will fk up the decision. These are the same people who appointed Ange in the first place. Literally the worst manage we’ve had in decades.

If all the pundits and ex players can see it, how can the board and an increasingly dwindling and deluded portion of the fan base not see it?

We made a massive gamble on this guy and it’s been a disaster. Well done Levy and Munn. Now just right your mistake please now.
I think this narrative that he's going to be sacked any day now has come solely from this thread and people backing up eachother's views. All the word coming from anyone within the club is that they've no intention of sacking Ange mid season and might even back him in January with more players
 
I must be the only one who feels like he's about 10 games away from the sack lol

I personally think there are 2 things that are keeping him in right now

Injuries
Form, particularly in the cups

Also we will see what we do in Jan, whatever they provide for him needs to give us an immediate upturn in results.

If we are plateauing like this going well in the 2nd half of the season then bye bye but it sounds to me like the board are completely relaxed and will give him more time.

I don't even believe the majority of people want the manager gone anyway, there's a large element of the online fans who've had enough but it's not translating to the stadium whatsoever.
 
I, like many on here, know next to nothing about setting up a professional football team, but I am very confident I could get one to score a goal against us. We make the same mistakes all the time and give up the same chances game after game. Every goal our defenders are either running back towards the goal like Forest.


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or there are multiple players on a back post v one defender to put the ball in the back of the net.

This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.

Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.
 
If we already have a full time manager to replace Ange, then the best time is to get him in now, so that he can get in 2/3 players in the coming TW to steady the ship until the summer, when he can replace more players in the squad
The idea is that this young squad should be able to adapt to any future attacking manager. Surely.

We can change managers but we can’t change overall styles because that’s what’s fucked us for the last five years.

Add and enhance the squad and move players on where needed but we need to keep a core nucleus that we build for success with.
 
This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.

Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.

And before checking his run he was hardly busting a gut to get back
 
I think this narrative that he's going to be sacked any day now has come solely from this thread and people backing up eachother's views. All the word coming from anyone within the club is that they've no intention of sacking Ange mid season and might even back him in January with more players
Ange is saying he needs more players. The noise from the media seems to be we are expected to be quiet.

And this fucker is almost at 50% for losses this season. Of course he’s on the cusp of being sacked.
 
We say that after almost every game.
Gonna be right eventually
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Long term decision. Sacking him now with no real plan is just a much bigger mess. We have no fit centre backs atm so no manager is going to come in and quickly get us results. Until we get our players back then we are a midtable team at best.

Best to just let Ange ride out this spell of injuries and see where we are come May. Tthen make the correct calculated decision when you have more evidence of exactly where we are in this rebuild. Sacking him now and gambling on a free agent like Potter could risk everything... If we are replacing Ange then lets make sure we get the right man (Iraolo) in for next season

Must stink walking around with your head up your own arsehole.

If you think things will improve you're not optimistic, you're just flat out wrong.

Token wins against fodder like Southampton are only pulling the wool over the eyes of fans like yourself. Ones who would clearly rather lose every game than back down and admit that he has to go.
 
We say that after almost every game.
There's something extremely odd about this one over the rest.
He's cast a spell over a lot of people to hide his lack of talent and it seems Levy is under that spell too.

Or, just maybe, Levy is leaving it to the others and the others aren't as adept at getting rid when the time is right.
If that is the case, they all need to be sacked ASAP.
 
This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.

Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.
Thank god I wasn’t the only one who saw that. I felt like he let up and could’ve blocked that shot or at the very least attempted to and maybe thrown him off the shot. Instead he just eased up as though he was out of the play.
 
So Mason in charge for the NLD in January? TRENCHES!
No more Mason. It doesn't do him any good professionally and probably is unhelpful because he becomes some version of "the old family retainer" instead of an upcoming coach. It's time for him to go manage somewhere. But I don't think it will come to any of that. The injured players will return and Spurs will come up with some wins and everything will go forward with Postecoglou. I think the owner and board have decided Postecoglou's the guy and they aren't going to be open to removing him. He'll have to have a full season with a healthy squad and transfer help before they'll make a decision. I can argue that he never should have been hired in the first place, and equally that it makes no sense to fire him until its demonstrated the system won't work.
 
It's interesting reading the comments in here today. I think I started a thread on this and so did someone else but what's an acceptable outcome for a season for us now?

Is it at least top 6 in the league, a good run / win in a cup (doesn't matter which one, Audi Cup doesn't count)? What do you think?
 
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