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Management Ange Postecoglou

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No we didn't. Most of those games were against shite like Coventry and Carrierbag in the cups.

Since the first 10 games of last season, this idiot useless twat of a coach has managed 3 league wins in a row ONCE.
This season he managed 2 in row ONCE.

LEAGUE GAMES.

Not cup games against lower league fodder.

You're either a troll or an idiot. Which ever one you are you're fucking good at it.
relax and calm down with the name calling. Doesn't make your case sound any stronger when you resort to that.

We beat Brentford and United in that run and were able to rotate players in the cups and Europa and still win. We've lost all ability to rotate because of all the injuries so have to play the same team every 3 days for the past month - that would destroy any team or manager. You are completely downplaying all of that to suit your narrative that everything is an Ange problem and that some new manager would come in and instantly get us winning games with forster in goals and 1 fit centre backs!
 
Good Lord, imagine actually comparing the two teams... please do your research as to why Leicester got worse.
Yeah its not 1:1 but still. Consistent top 8 team collapsed. And they still were able to spank teams like us during their relegation season. Can happen again. Especially since our pace right now below 50pts/season. Couple extra losses and it can be ugly.
 
I think some people just want to see positives and have hope mate, no need to be personal. 😅
Nah, it's beyond that.

It is either trolling or there is something seriously wrong in his head.

I guarantee you, there's would be a handful of them who would argue we should keep him if we wer rock fucking bottom of the league.

"No point sacking him now, we'll need him to get us back up next season"
 
The idea of waiting until the summer assumes we have the luxury of time, but the truth is, this season could spiral further into irrelevance if we stick with a failing system. We could, quite literally, be throwing away the chance of winning a cup.

The notion that the players are ‘behind Ange’ sounds nice, but backing a manager emotionally doesn’t always translate into results on the pitch. If anything, it makes our current form even more damning. If they are playing for him and we’re still this bad, that’s a bigger indictment of his methods than if they’d given up entirely.

As for Mason, I don’t think anyone is genuinely suggesting him as a long-term solution; the point of bringing him in temporarily would be to simply remove the manager before any more long term damage can be done but the replacement should ideally already be lined up.

Leaving Ange in charge when the metrics and performances clearly show regression isn’t patience; it’s negligence.

Half the stuff you're saying here I agree with, I said that he should be sacked if our season continues like this or if we someone worthy to replace him with. the fact is if it spirals into further negligence then he more than deserves to go, I think he's actually lucky to still be in a job however there isn't a scenario that any sane Spurs fan should want where Ryan Mason takes over until the end of the season, if you're scared of throwing the chance of winning trophies then you can't propose a scenario of a inexperienced coach to take over to save our season, it's contradictory and nonsensical.

If the players are playing for him and are behind him then why everyone think that Mason coming in is going to get more out of them, it's not as simple as dropping the high line and not inverting the full backs, such a simplistic argument.
 
“The sun will rise. We will be back.The greatest test is when things are going badly.
The greatest test that I've ever had. We will come back.
That's the truth. The main, main reason is having seven, eight important injured players.
And with a game every three days, it's more difficult."
 
I don't want to be rude or anything but it's clear your lack some reading comprehension skills and some basic knowledge.

If you're trying to champion Ryan Mason you can't use an argument that Ange has conceded more goals than Mason, the reason is simply because Ange has more experience than, Mason has about 10 Prem matches under his belt FFS...so tell me why you can guarantee then Mason would be doing better than him? What is is actually based on?

Cut the emotional bullshit and back your argument for once.

It’s based on the fact that Ange is the worst manager this club has ever had. He has publicly said he has no plan b or c. He will continue to tell players to play out from the back when they haven’t got the technical ability to do so. Then he tells them to stand on the half way line to play a suicidal offside trap. Then when players are busting a gut trying to get back from playing said high line, they start dropping like flies with injuries.

Then what does he do? He rushes them back to the starting line up when they are clearly not ready and guess what happens? Go on guess.

He’s a fucking clown mate. A one trick pony that was sussed out after the grand total of TEN games last season and ever since then it’s been a disaster. He stands on the sideline looking shell shocked that his one dimensional tactic has been nullified with ease by even the lower table premier league managers.

Sky sports commentators are literally laughing at us during games now with how Ange has told us to play. Mason can steady the ship for 6 months then we can go back to square one and get a new manager in the summer.

And also for good measure, I’m pretty sure the players have had enough of Ange too.
 
Nah, it's beyond that.

It is either trolling or there is something seriously wrong in his head.

I guarantee you, there's would be a handful of them who would argue we should keep him if we wer rock fucking bottom of the league.

"No point sacking him now, we'll need him to get us back up next season"
You just want him sacked with no plan or anything. What is your plan if we sack him tomorrow? Mason? Potter? The dortmund lad? Just dive into one of them and start playing pragmatic to nick a few results to move us up the league table just for some quick relief or gratification?

Instead of calling me an idiot and making comments about me having suffered from some type of head injury, why not try to listen and understand that some fans have a different opinion to you. My opinion is that yes Ange is struggling and I have big doubts, but I also appreciate the ridiculous injury crisis we've had during a busy spell where we have a game every 3 days and have had to run all our fit players into the ground. I also think sacking him during the mid season when we've clearly no obvious target lined up is a smart play either. For me I don't see the problem with letting him finish out the season and making the correct calculated call in May when we have all the evidence need and have our homework done on a new target. To me thats a better long term strategy to make sure this project doesn't just fall off a cliff..

I'm sorry that you think I'm a troll and an idiot but thats my reasoning. Abuse me all you want and call me names. Just block me if you disagree maybe because you clearly can't handle a debate and don't want to listen to the other side.
 
relax and calm down with the name calling. Doesn't make your case sound any stronger when you resort to that.

We beat Brentford and United in that run and were able to rotate players in the cups and Europa and still win. We've lost all ability to rotate because of all the injuries so have to play the same team every 3 days for the past month - that would destroy any team or manager. You are completely downplaying all of that to suit your narrative that everything is an Ange problem and that some new manager would come in and instantly get us winning games with forster in goals and 1 fit centre backs!

We’ve won two league games in a row four times since 2023.

Not everything relates to the current run of injuries.

Last season, we got hit with injuries, we all got told to wait till they’re back, we did, we had a poor run still and somehow scraped fifth even though thanks to the first ten games we were in a great position.

THIS is the pattern, with lots of injuries, we’re terrible, with all the players back, we still aren’t that good.
 
It’s based on the fact that Ange is the worst manager this club has ever had. He has publicly said he has no plan b or c. He will continue to tell players to play out from the back when they haven’t got the technical ability to do so. Then he tells them to stand on the half way line to play a suicidal offside trap. Then when players are busting a gut trying to get back from playing said high line, they start dropping like flies with injuries.

Then what does he do? He rushes them back to the starting line up when they are clearly not ready and guess what happens? Go on guess.

He’s a fucking clown mate. A one trick pony that was sussed out after the grand total of TEN games last season and ever since then it’s been a disaster. He stands on the sideline looking shell shocked that his one dimensional tactic has been nullified with ease by even the lower table premier league managers.

Sky sports commentators are literally laughing at us during games now with how Ange has told us to play. Mason can steady the ship for 6 months then we can go back to square one and get a new manager in the summer.

And also for good measure, I’m pretty sure the players have had enough of Ange too.
When Forest scored he was shaking his head like he couldn’t believe it.

I can’t believe he’s surprised.
 
Go on a run of what?
At what point since his first 10 games have we been on any kind of a run of anything other than losses in the league??

Wake up mate. It ain't gonna happen.
Yeah maybe I'm completely deluded but I can see a world where we get VDV back, Romero stops making stupid mistakes costing goals every game, we add a few reinforcements in the window and get a few good wins and start getting some confidence and momentum back.
 
Half the stuff you're saying here I agree with, I said that he should be sacked if our season continues like this or if we someone worthy to replace him with. the fact is if it spirals into further negligence then he more than deserves to go, I think he's actually lucky to still be in a job however there isn't a scenario that any sane Spurs fan should want where Ryan Mason takes over until the end of the season, if you're scared of throwing the chance of winning trophies then you can't propose a scenario of a inexperienced coach to take over to save our season, it's contradictory and nonsensical.

If the players are playing for him and are behind him then why everyone think that Mason coming in is going to get more out of them, it's not as simple as dropping the high line and not inverting the full backs, such a simplistic argument.

I agree with that. Only counter point I would make is our mess of a squad build means we are much more suited to 352 than 433. I do think any manager with a 352 solution has a much better chance of getting something more with the current players. That isn’t how it should be but how I see it player wise. A back 3 you only need 1 proper CB if the other two are good on the ball as the wide CB’s are more like defensive full backs, we can use our wing backs as wing backs and Son can play off Solanke while packing the midfield.

Forster
Bissouma Dragusin Gray
Porro Sarr Bentancur Maddison Udogie
Solanke Son

Ange needs wingers who press, hold onto the ball and beat the full backs, Son and Johnson are not those guys. It’s why we wanted Neto and it’s what is causing us tactically the biggest issues as we lose the ball to much exposing our defence and don’t break down the opposition making it harder for Solanke and our midfield.
 
It’s based on the fact that Ange is the worst manager this club has ever had. He has publicly said he has no plan b or c. He will continue to tell players to play out from the back when they haven’t got the technical ability to do so. Then he tells them to stand on the half way line to play a suicidal offside trap. Then when players are busting a gut trying to get back from playing said high line, they start dropping like flies with injuries.

Then what does he do? He rushes them back to the starting line up when they are clearly not ready and guess what happens? Go on guess.

He’s a fucking clown mate. A one trick pony that was sussed out after the grand total of TEN games last season and ever since then it’s been a disaster. He stands on the sideline looking shell shocked that his one dimensional tactic has been nullified with ease by even the lower table premier league managers.

Sky sports commentators are literally laughing at us during games now with how Ange has told us to play. Mason can steady the ship for 6 months then we can go back to square one and get a new manager in the summer.

And also for good measure, I’m pretty sure the players have had enough of Ange too.

This is all well and good but I didn't ask for a breakdown of our manager, there's a load of repeated posts in here daily as to why he's doing a bad job.

Nothing is this essay has said anything positive with the guy you want him replaced with which proves my point and until then I don't want to hear about Ryan fekin Mason, spare me.
 
Not going to lie but thats absolutely crazy not starting Maddison today after resting him midweek... Son clearly needs a rest and he had the opportunity to rest him today with Maddison coming in! That defeats my point about about him not being able to rotate...

So Ange has let me down completely with that team. I can't defend that!
 
The other issue with the “what’s the worst that could happen” idea:

The form we’re in, not just currently, but over the last year or so, could easily see us finish 11th-14th. I don’t for a second think we’re in a relegation scrap, there’s a few teams who are just that poor that they will ways drop down before us.

But say we look at this as what’s the worst that could happen and let’s give him the rest of the season. We drop out of the cups, which I’m expecting us to do. We won’t beat Liverpool, the FA Cup who knows but I’d still fancy the first proper team in a bit of form to turn up and put us out, and the Europa, I think it’s there if we want it, but we need a proper manager to go for it - either way, let’s just say he doesn’t win anything, that’s one bit.

Then, the fact we so rarely win two league games on the bounce, his PPG and all the other stats that show we we lack any kind of consistency mean that we could quite conceivably, finish somewhere between 12th and 14th.

Regardless of what you think of them personally as personnel and whether they’re good enough, I would say Vicario, Porro, Dragusin, VDV, Romero, maybe Udogie, Kulu, Maddison, Solanke are all good enough to play in europe, so without it, we could lose any number of those players if the bid comes in.

To replace them, we know Levy doesn’t pay big wages and if anything with no Europe he’s likely to cost cut. So, we give Ange till the end of the season, no cups are won and we finish lower half of the table - where do you go then? Our worst players are all that remain, the players we can attract are even lower level than we can get now, and you’ve got a manager so unbelievably, woefully, embarrassingly out of his depth that next season with all the above, you could genuinely find we’re in a real problem area of perhaps not being directly at risk of going down, but instead we’re now fighting to even be a top half club.
 
This is all well and good but I didn't ask for a breakdown of our manager, there's a load of repeated posts in here daily as to why he's doing a bad job.

Nothing is this essay has said anything positive with the guy you want him replaced with which proves my point and until then I don't want to hear about Ryan fekin Mason, spare me.

I literally said that mason can steady the ship until the summer. And you say I lack basic reading comprehension?

You know that saying if it’s not broke don’t fix it? Well it is broke and we do need to fix it.
 
I literally said that mason can steady the ship until the summer. And you say I lack basic reading comprehension?

You know that saying if it’s not broke don’t fix it? Well it is broke and we do need to fix it.

I purposely ignored it because it's a load of nonsense.

Steady the ship, again that's not a guarantee particulaly for a coach that has little experience, that's mererly your opinion based on emotion purely because you have already made up your mind on the manager who is currently in charge of our club.

You might as well put yourself forward and claim you can 'steady the ship'

Ramblings.
 
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