Levy has had several weeks to find a replacement, its been shit for most of this season.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Exactly, this is my point entirely.
I have no confidence in Ange but I think some are underestimating that throwing in a new manager at this moment is a risk, to say the least.
If we have a good candidate in place I'd get rid of him tomorrow, but I doubt we do.
What killed Ange for me was
a. Mad high line against Chelsea with nine men (to this day one of the most naive things I've ever seen on a football pitch)
b. The quotes about substitutions - they were posted in this thread earlier today. Honestly completely mad, you couldn't make them up
Definitely something is causing it but training that imitates game-like situations isn't enough of an explanation.
Massively toxic environment apparently, they do tend to collect troublesome players and have an entitled fanbase, pressure from the hierarchy, media and ex players similar to Bayern. They drew last game of the season and it turned out Bayern won their fixture in 89 minute to win the league on GD.
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It probably drained him or was expecting to be sacked anyway. He was a fairly pragmatic tactician at Dortmund and despite getting the job done (nearly) had a bust up with Hummels, some fans woud side with Hummels, they probably never moved on from Klopp's heavy metal football.
Since he left they finished 5th last year and are on course to repeat that again. Hummels left the club too by the way.
Iraola is my no 1 choice tbh but I doubt he comes 'til the summer.
Asked ChatGPT to predict the future of this club after another poor result:
"The year is 2029.
Tottenham Hotspur, once a Premier League stalwart, is now preparing for a gritty showdown in the National Conference League. Ange Postecoglou, still at the helm despite a record-breaking four consecutive relegations, sits beside his fresh-faced assistant manager, Timo Werner, in a press room that smells faintly of despair and stale Bovril. The weekend's big game against fellow strugglers Yeovil Town looms ominously.
“Don’t screw this up, mate,” Ange mutters to Timo,who looks like he’s just realised he’s been pushed into the spotlight by Ange as some sort of elaborate punishment for forgetting to bring him his morning coffee.
Timo, clutching his book titled "Press Conferences for Dummies", nods nervously. His last attempt at public speaking involved a heartfelt but garbled speech at a local pub about why he still believes in the offside rule.
The press room buzzes with a mix of bemusement and exhaustion. Somehow, a smattering of die-hard Spurs fans are still in the building, wearing shirts emblazoned with the phrase, "Trust the Process".
“Once Ange gets all his injured players back, you’ll see. We’ll be cooking again,” one supporter says, clutching a laminated spreadsheet of hypothetical future league tables. He points out how Spurs’ xG in training matches is actually quite promising. His friend nods solemnly, while a third fan stares blankly into the middle distance, as if trying to remember what joy feels like.
Meanwhile, another group of fans huddle in a corner, whispering bitterly. “We’ve just got to stick with him. You can’t keep changing managers every time you lose 80% of your games,” one says. “What are we? The Chavs?”
As the press conference begins, Timo clears his throat and leans into the mic. “Uh... We... Uh... We are very focused on Yeovil,” he stammers, while Ange visibly winces beside him.
“Focused?” a journalist interrupts. “Yeovil beat you 5–0 last month. At home. And you called that performance, ‘a step in the right direction.’ Care to elaborate?”
Listen, it’s a process mate. Rome wasn’t built in a day, alright? Sure, Rome didn’t get relegated to the National Conference either, but that’s beside the point.”
Ange’s job hangs by a thread, with critics calling for change. However, the only realistic alternatives appear to be Chirpy the Cockerel, who reportedly demanded a five-year contract and a corn-based bonus structure, or the manager of the local Chick King, whose tactical expertise includes perfecting the 2-for-1 Tuesday special."
"The year is 2029.
Tottenham Hotspur, once a Premier League stalwart, is now preparing for a gritty showdown in the National Conference League. Ange Postecoglou, still at the helm despite a record-breaking four consecutive relegations, sits beside his fresh-faced assistant manager, Timo Werner, in a press room that smells faintly of despair and stale Bovril. The weekend's big game against fellow strugglers Yeovil Town looms ominously.
“Don’t screw this up, mate,” Ange mutters to Timo,who looks like he’s just realised he’s been pushed into the spotlight by Ange as some sort of elaborate punishment for forgetting to bring him his morning coffee.
Timo, clutching his book titled "Press Conferences for Dummies", nods nervously. His last attempt at public speaking involved a heartfelt but garbled speech at a local pub about why he still believes in the offside rule.
The press room buzzes with a mix of bemusement and exhaustion. Somehow, a smattering of die-hard Spurs fans are still in the building, wearing shirts emblazoned with the phrase, "Trust the Process".
“Once Ange gets all his injured players back, you’ll see. We’ll be cooking again,” one supporter says, clutching a laminated spreadsheet of hypothetical future league tables. He points out how Spurs’ xG in training matches is actually quite promising. His friend nods solemnly, while a third fan stares blankly into the middle distance, as if trying to remember what joy feels like.
Meanwhile, another group of fans huddle in a corner, whispering bitterly. “We’ve just got to stick with him. You can’t keep changing managers every time you lose 80% of your games,” one says. “What are we? The Chavs?”
As the press conference begins, Timo clears his throat and leans into the mic. “Uh... We... Uh... We are very focused on Yeovil,” he stammers, while Ange visibly winces beside him.
“Focused?” a journalist interrupts. “Yeovil beat you 5–0 last month. At home. And you called that performance, ‘a step in the right direction.’ Care to elaborate?”
Listen, it’s a process mate. Rome wasn’t built in a day, alright? Sure, Rome didn’t get relegated to the National Conference either, but that’s beside the point.”
Ange’s job hangs by a thread, with critics calling for change. However, the only realistic alternatives appear to be Chirpy the Cockerel, who reportedly demanded a five-year contract and a corn-based bonus structure, or the manager of the local Chick King, whose tactical expertise includes perfecting the 2-for-1 Tuesday special."
I'm not saying it's not true because I don't feel like it, though. People are saying it IS true because they feel like it.I'm saying we don't have enough information to say it is that.
Why are you so sure Ange's methods are old school or similar to Chelsea and United teams that had injuries?
Wait a minute, only one person on here uses phrases like this, brudda. ChatGPT is just Shadydan in disguise
The point is Ange is a fucking joke that's dragging us down.
Just because you can't see how to sort it doesn't mean we should just keep this useless donkey around.
This is what fucks me right off with you lot "what's the point"
Just because you lack the creativity to see there's a dozen candidates out there that could be got now with enough of a push.
We're not talking about taking prime Pep from Man City. We're talking about taking an up and coming Iraola from fucking Bournemouth.
And Levy will do it when things get shit enough. He did exactly that to Southampton for Hoddle and Poch and to Portsmouth for Redknapp.
Will Iraola win the league? No.
Will he be better than this drip?
Fucking hell yeah.
So STFU with this "what's the point" nonsense.
That attitude says a fuck lot more about you and people like you than anything else.
For me was that 5 game loss streak towards end of season was a red flag. Pre-season had warnings as well. Conceding 3 to k-league. Turned over twice by bayern. Can live with latter though. Its just too kamikaze under him.
What would be an additional explanation, in your view?
And it's not like the players he will want backing with would only be useful for him. They are the obvious whole that need filling for any manager that plays some version of 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1
If one team plays extremely high effort football and is adversely affected by injuries the logical conclusion is that it's a result of said way of playing. Not to mention the players have even said they're knackered. The logical, reasonable conclusion is that it's at least a BIG part of it. Saying we just "don't have any evidence for it" is delusional.
Take a chill pill you freak.
I am saying that I don’t trust that Levy has anyone lined up or a plan for that potential manager to succeed. I have a few favorites that I think would be great at Spurs, but this isn’t a fucking video game.
We need to make the right appointment. Maybe the right appointment is currently employed and we can’t hire him. Who the fuck knows. You sure as hell don’t know.
Give it a rest, you weren't even born until sometime in the 2000's
I'd need to know what the actual training regimen looks like on a week to week and how they go about monitoring and managing player loads (red zones etc)
Then you'd need to know the same for other clubs who play a similar intense, high-pressing style and have less injuries.
I can’t wait for Ange to get the sack so we can finally welcome back Logical Richard. Deep down, you know why the players are dropping like flies, but you’re tying yourself in knots to avoid the obvious conclusion mate.
Look, I get it—backing down from a position you’ve held can be tough, especially when there’s a fear of being wrong. But doubling down endlessly doesn’t make your argument stronger; it just makes you look resistant to critical thinking. I’ve been wrong plenty of times about this club and its managers, and honestly, owning up to it has never made me feel like an idiot, it happens.
We all wanted to believe in Ange but it hasn't worked out, that's the way it goes sometimes.
The good news is that's a very lonely camp.
Isn't that the depressing reality of how Spurs fans have allowed Levy to lower expectations.
We aren't even concerned that any new coach we hire isn't one who could win us the league.