I've found that too but only because I've muted them
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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It's the lack of fight and guts that is most worrying, if we get dragged into a relegation fight you need both in spades. Unbelievable how many aerial contests we either fail to compete in or lose miserably, I don't think I have ever witnessed a team so poor at them or at anything that resembles a 50 50 challenge.
No problem with that analysis. I was responding to your suggestion that the younger players might feel aggrieved at his presser. Nothing he said or did in game supports that afaics
At least I saw us win an fa cup......the best you've experienced was probably the Audi Cup
Like I said, I am young.
You are just a rude old git glazing about a cup win from the Ceefax era whilst Enic plays you for the muppet that you are and has you convinced Ange will save you.
I bet you are the ancient type of cuck Chaucer wrote about...
It's just so easy to press us, there's no one dropping deep to receive the ball because everyone is in the final third, when we don't need so much players there, the ball is a long way back to getting there, what's the fucking point? I don't know if this is the view of Ange on attacking footbal, just crowding the final third with players, without anyone to bring the ball there, make a cross, put a through ball, work a one -two, we simply don't have a midfield most of the time and the guy is leaving Maddison on the bench, he cleary thinks this shit will work, as if we were in the 50's were you played with 5 forwards.
He's being backed more than any manager we had in recent years and still is our worst manager.
We are a Fukin laughing stock.....
He's obviously questioned - very articulately - Ange's methods, or such, and been knocked back because pof it.
Ange cutting off his nose to spite his face.
Too up in his feels all the time.
Yep, he knows he's done.
His survival is unprecedented in this league.
The saddest thing about our situation right now, is I felt nothing losing tonight. It's been pure apathy and it's been like that for months.
I know we are shit, and so when we win, like when we beat City, and I said it at the time, I couldn't properly celebrate it because I knew it was just a one off freak result. I think United away was the last game we won where I properly thought maybe I was wrong and something good could happen this season, as it was still early enough in the season. Winning games when you know you aren't a good side and won't achieve anything is the most hollow feeling. When Poch was here, I used to be so pumped for every game because I knew we had big things riding on it. Top 4, a title challenge, what amazing feelins. Under Ange I feel nothing. I feel nothing about losing to Woolwich tonight, just anger and sadness that Ange is still here.
It's honestly got to the point that I think it is actually best for the club if we get battered on Sunday 4 nil, so that Ange is 100% sacked, and we can move on and install an emergency manager.
It's desperate times, but this is the situation we are in. I have no idea who comes in. But I'd be moving heaven and earth for Iraola in the summer. In the meantime, we need to bring someone in to get enough points on the board to escape any relegation fears.
We simply canno continue with Ange. If people think VDV and Romero will sort us out they are deluded. Gray has been one of our best players, so replacing him isn't going to change our fortunes that much. The issues are everywhere else in the pitch and in the dugout.
I know we are shit, and so when we win, like when we beat City, and I said it at the time, I couldn't properly celebrate it because I knew it was just a one off freak result. I think United away was the last game we won where I properly thought maybe I was wrong and something good could happen this season, as it was still early enough in the season. Winning games when you know you aren't a good side and won't achieve anything is the most hollow feeling. When Poch was here, I used to be so pumped for every game because I knew we had big things riding on it. Top 4, a title challenge, what amazing feelins. Under Ange I feel nothing. I feel nothing about losing to Woolwich tonight, just anger and sadness that Ange is still here.
It's honestly got to the point that I think it is actually best for the club if we get battered on Sunday 4 nil, so that Ange is 100% sacked, and we can move on and install an emergency manager.
It's desperate times, but this is the situation we are in. I have no idea who comes in. But I'd be moving heaven and earth for Iraola in the summer. In the meantime, we need to bring someone in to get enough points on the board to escape any relegation fears.
We simply canno continue with Ange. If people think VDV and Romero will sort us out they are deluded. Gray has been one of our best players, so replacing him isn't going to change our fortunes that much. The issues are everywhere else in the pitch and in the dugout.
Worse than no imagination I think that he just doesn’t care anymore as he’ll just carry on and get paid or he’ll get sacked and get a massive pay off
He probably realises that he’s been found out and isn’t capable of managing a club like ours
Either way he wins!
Only giving the manager Chris Davies last summer in terms of what you might call "top class" coaching, is an obscene decision that has done more damage than we probably know..
If it was the clubs decision to surround the manager with unproven coaches such as Jedinak and Mason etc.. Then that is amongst their most brazen and insulting instances of corner cutting..
And if it was the manager that said in his first interview with us that "nah, that''s all I need, That should be fine". Then that should've been the moment we said "Oh okay. You don't quite get what the level of Premier League football is. This interview is over"
Either way. That is unforgivable and is on Levy and Munn.
If it was the clubs decision to surround the manager with unproven coaches such as Jedinak and Mason etc.. Then that is amongst their most brazen and insulting instances of corner cutting..
And if it was the manager that said in his first interview with us that "nah, that''s all I need, That should be fine". Then that should've been the moment we said "Oh okay. You don't quite get what the level of Premier League football is. This interview is over"
Either way. That is unforgivable and is on Levy and Munn.
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Must be one of the few jobs in the world where doing a shite job is better rewarded than a good one. Paid off on gardening leave on a fat salary to do fucking nothing.
When he hardly played him but prefer those times to this shite!
It was really bad and I thought that he was going to burst into tears all the way to the bank!
Can we take a step back a second and look at some of the batshit tactics on display today?
Here was our set up just before the second goal:
(Note, we are 1 minute to half time and somehow we're drawing away at the Emirates. Any novice manager knows, whatever you do now, do NOT concede. Do NOT hand them an easy goal. Just get to half time and then breathe. Anyway, here's how we set up):
So we have Djed Spence passing it into Bissouma, who doesn't have a supporting midfielder within 40 yards of him. The centre circle is completely empty. Porro for some reason is making a move up to the right wing (well, we know the reason; this is where Ange has told him to be). HUGE gap between the two centre backs, Archie not even in the picture.
Now, don't get me wrong, Bissouma loses the ball badly. But sometimes players lose the ball, and up to that point Bissouma had had a pretty good game. You can't plan your tactics assuming all your players will do everything 100% right on the pitch; you have to mitigate for the occasional error.
Anyway, what should be completely clear here is, if Bissouma loses the ball here, we are fucked. Woolwich have 6 players ready to pounce, and they are man-to-man on our CBs, who are completely exposed with no protection by Sarr or Bergvall; our right back nowhere to be seen, our 2 other central midfielders pushing up (having been clearly told to do so by the manager).
So, our set up is a joke. Porro should be 20 yards back, and Sarr should be on the centre spot, at the very least.
Beyond that, Spence probably shouldn't be passing to Bissouma there, and Bissouma certainly shouldn't be turning and dribbling with so little cover. I wonder who is telling them to try to dribble and intricate pass it out from here? Probably the same guy who's told Porro to ignore Leandro Trossard and Sarr and Bergvall to push up, don't you think? Because it's the exact same set up we have whenever we have possession. And it constantly leaves us exposed.
Anyway, here we are two seconds later:
How many times have we seen this? An opposition team bearing down on our poor exposed centre backs with no cover? Too many times this season to count.
Make no mistake; at this point we're already completely fucked. Yes Dragusin should have eventually closed down Trossard better, and Kinsky done better with the shot.
But that's not the reason why we concede here. We concede because
- 1) our absolutely BATSHIT set up leaves us completely exposed whenever we lose possession in this part of the pitch and
- 2) our manager has told our players they MUST pass it out the back even if we're a minute from half time and drawing at the Emirates.
I think sometimes we can get a bit wrapped up in the results side of things, in the Ange in/out argument. But here is cast iron evidence that this man is not coaching this team properly, that he doesn't have a good football instinct of what to get his guys to do on the pitch.
And then to shank our two DMs at half time, and play Bergvall as a solo 6 flanked by Maddison and Kulu was the icing on the cake. As if we needed FEWER defensive mids not more
So so utterly out of his depth tactically, not to mention emotionally or anything else. It should be beyond question now.
Here was our set up just before the second goal:
(Note, we are 1 minute to half time and somehow we're drawing away at the Emirates. Any novice manager knows, whatever you do now, do NOT concede. Do NOT hand them an easy goal. Just get to half time and then breathe. Anyway, here's how we set up):
So we have Djed Spence passing it into Bissouma, who doesn't have a supporting midfielder within 40 yards of him. The centre circle is completely empty. Porro for some reason is making a move up to the right wing (well, we know the reason; this is where Ange has told him to be). HUGE gap between the two centre backs, Archie not even in the picture.
Now, don't get me wrong, Bissouma loses the ball badly. But sometimes players lose the ball, and up to that point Bissouma had had a pretty good game. You can't plan your tactics assuming all your players will do everything 100% right on the pitch; you have to mitigate for the occasional error.
Anyway, what should be completely clear here is, if Bissouma loses the ball here, we are fucked. Woolwich have 6 players ready to pounce, and they are man-to-man on our CBs, who are completely exposed with no protection by Sarr or Bergvall; our right back nowhere to be seen, our 2 other central midfielders pushing up (having been clearly told to do so by the manager).
So, our set up is a joke. Porro should be 20 yards back, and Sarr should be on the centre spot, at the very least.
Beyond that, Spence probably shouldn't be passing to Bissouma there, and Bissouma certainly shouldn't be turning and dribbling with so little cover. I wonder who is telling them to try to dribble and intricate pass it out from here? Probably the same guy who's told Porro to ignore Leandro Trossard and Sarr and Bergvall to push up, don't you think? Because it's the exact same set up we have whenever we have possession. And it constantly leaves us exposed.
Anyway, here we are two seconds later:
How many times have we seen this? An opposition team bearing down on our poor exposed centre backs with no cover? Too many times this season to count.
Make no mistake; at this point we're already completely fucked. Yes Dragusin should have eventually closed down Trossard better, and Kinsky done better with the shot.
But that's not the reason why we concede here. We concede because
- 1) our absolutely BATSHIT set up leaves us completely exposed whenever we lose possession in this part of the pitch and
- 2) our manager has told our players they MUST pass it out the back even if we're a minute from half time and drawing at the Emirates.
I think sometimes we can get a bit wrapped up in the results side of things, in the Ange in/out argument. But here is cast iron evidence that this man is not coaching this team properly, that he doesn't have a good football instinct of what to get his guys to do on the pitch.
And then to shank our two DMs at half time, and play Bergvall as a solo 6 flanked by Maddison and Kulu was the icing on the cake. As if we needed FEWER defensive mids not more
So so utterly out of his depth tactically, not to mention emotionally or anything else. It should be beyond question now.
Nah, he's too proud for that.
He just doesn't have the tactical toolset others do.
No imagination, colour or tones to his craft.
Just one or two dry notes.
Fair enough but I feel as though I’ve heard it all before from him in previous pressers!
Jedinak was picked by Ange. They have known each other for more than 10 years.
We need to pay the money and get Ireola