Yeh that ain’t happening.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Yeh that ain’t happening.
Tbh Iraola is in a better position at Bournemouth than he would be here.
Think its getting to state I wonder who would come here now ?
maybe in the summer But that for me is 18months too late as I've wanted him out since Nov 23 (when he said he wouldn't train to defend corners)
The Cup run and the injuries are getting him more time. If we had lost to pool last week he would have pulled the trigger already
A very well thought out lucid post. I agree with most of it but fundamentally nothing will change under the current ownership. 25 years and the formula remains the same. They are not building anything. They are doing the bear minimum to keep the stadium full.Why do people shit on English managers like Dyche? Yet somehow Ange and di zerbi are gods?t Tell me what the fuck Ange accomplished before coming here? Celtic run themselves. He had some stints at australian and japanese minnows. It took him decades to get a gig in a top flight league. You can see how fucking tactically inept he is. He cant even defend a corner. He’s just not at this level and it shows. And the fact he is a novice and yet still refuses to change anything shows how delusional he is. But it’s okay because reddit hipsters told me he’s some revolutionary martyr of football because he comes from some obscure wank league and says a few cute sound bites.
Heres a thing. Most people dont know shit about football and overcomplicate everything. You know, Ange might relegate us, but god forbid we bring in someone English and working class like Dyche
Its this mentality that has us where we are. Trying to be clever and here we are near the bottom of the table. We need a reality check and stop being pretenders. We’re fucking weak from top to bottom. The mentality stinks of this fake superiority. Weve got this nice pretty stadium. Great. Tell me what the fuck we’ve won in decades? Nothing. Fuck all.
Weve tried to be big bollocks with Mourinho and Conte. It failed because we never backed them to the extent that they find acceptable. When you hire a manager like Mourinho you go balls to the wall not that half arsed shite we did. A child could tell you that.
We tried the obscure ange bullshit. It failed miserably because it was all smoke and mirrors stuff. You can see the disorganised powder puff bullshit we put out each week and weve got this 2 dollar manager we found down the back of a mattress that refuses to change anything or outright refuses to do a bit of managing, his job. Okay great so just have no manager then.
And now everyones creaming about the next manager. More obscure foreign names that have little to no experience in the league. Have barely heard of Tottenham but theyre the next big thing to win us trophies because “OmG HaVe YoU sEeN tHeRe xG sTaTs” you’re going to get more of the same
What Spurs need is more spiritual. Theres a rot at the club. The player recruitment is shit. The ethos is so dogmatic and shortsighted. It’s either short term plan. Or long term plan buying youngsters. But no inbetween. Its either this project or that project.
we need a reality check. We have to tear up all of our ego and start again. Im sorry but the latest wank manager isnt going to cut it. Its another merry-go round. Someone comes in. Gets used to the club. Tries to shoehorn players into his latest system. Realises he’s out of his depth. Gets sacked. Rinse and repeat.
Now if im Levy It’s completely pointless to hire another manager right now. But its also completely pointless to keep Ange another second. So I would sack Ange and bring in Dyche for the rest of the season and start our recruitment process in the summer with hopefully some answered questions about where we are as a club. And heres what Dyche does. He comes in, tightens up our defence. He gets us playing simple football again. No confusing systems that dont work. Just a well set up team that is hard to break down and defensively sound at the back, whilst having more attacking prowess than what he had at Everton.
The next thing he does is brings a more father figure to the club. Oversees the issue with Spurs mentality. We all know Dyche is a no nonsense guy. Especially when it comes to hipster managers complicating everything. We are a faux club with poncey systems, but shitter versions. Trying to be something we’re not.
A guy like Dyche comes in every time this club needs liberating. Harry Redknapp after Ramos. Sherwood after AVB. We get so lost in our own bullshit that you need a demolition guy like Dyche to come in and just get us playing decent simple football again whilst putting an arm around the players and being strict but build our confidence.
We’re a pussy club. We need someone like Dyche at this moment in time. Is he the answer? No. But he’s necessary for where we are right now to steer the shit and get us back to basics because iv never seen a squad more lost. We cant even defend a set piece because weve got a hipster manager that thinks set pieces are beneath him and that just about sums up this fake wannabe persona this club has.
Sometimes you need a simple manager that is savvy and cunning enough to set up a solid team. Sometimes you need a 33 year old free agent William Gallas that joins just at the right time and is a useful addition to a bigger picture… everything we do is dogmatic and one way these days. Theres no flexibility in it anymore.
Why do people shit on English managers like Dyche? Yet somehow Ange and di zerbi are gods?t Tell me what the fuck Ange accomplished before coming here? Celtic run themselves. He had some stints at australian and japanese minnows. It took him decades to get a gig in a top flight league. You can see how fucking tactically inept he is. He cant even defend a corner. He’s just not at this level and it shows. And the fact he is a novice and yet still refuses to change anything shows how delusional he is. But it’s okay because reddit hipsters told me he’s some revolutionary martyr of football because he comes from some obscure wank league and says a few cute sound bites.
Heres a thing. Most people dont know shit about football and overcomplicate everything. You know, Ange might relegate us, but god forbid we bring in someone English and working class like Dyche
Its this mentality that has us where we are. Trying to be clever and here we are near the bottom of the table. We need a reality check and stop being pretenders. We’re fucking weak from top to bottom. The mentality stinks of this fake superiority. Weve got this nice pretty stadium. Great. Tell me what the fuck we’ve won in decades? Nothing. Fuck all.
Weve tried to be big bollocks with Mourinho and Conte. It failed because we never backed them to the extent that they find acceptable. When you hire a manager like Mourinho you go balls to the wall not that half arsed shite we did. A child could tell you that.
We tried the obscure ange bullshit. It failed miserably because it was all smoke and mirrors stuff. You can see the disorganised powder puff bullshit we put out each week and weve got this 2 dollar manager we found down the back of a mattress that refuses to change anything or outright refuses to do a bit of managing, his job. Okay great so just have no manager then.
And now everyones creaming about the next manager. More obscure foreign names that have little to no experience in the league. Have barely heard of Tottenham but theyre the next big thing to win us trophies because “OmG HaVe YoU sEeN tHeRe xG sTaTs” you’re going to get more of the same
What Spurs need is more spiritual. Theres a rot at the club. The player recruitment is shit. The ethos is so dogmatic and shortsighted. It’s either short term plan. Or long term plan buying youngsters. But no inbetween. Its either this project or that project.
we need a reality check. We have to tear up all of our ego and start again. Im sorry but the latest wank manager isnt going to cut it. Its another merry-go round. Someone comes in. Gets used to the club. Tries to shoehorn players into his latest system. Realises he’s out of his depth. Gets sacked. Rinse and repeat.
Now if im Levy It’s completely pointless to hire another manager right now. But its also completely pointless to keep Ange another second. So I would sack Ange and bring in Dyche for the rest of the season and start our recruitment process in the summer with hopefully some answered questions about where we are as a club. And heres what Dyche does. He comes in, tightens up our defence. He gets us playing simple football again. No confusing systems that dont work. Just a well set up team that is hard to break down and defensively sound at the back, whilst having more attacking prowess than what he had at Everton.
The next thing he does is brings a more father figure to the club. Oversees the issue with Spurs mentality. We all know Dyche is a no nonsense guy. Especially when it comes to hipster managers complicating everything. We are a faux club with poncey systems, but shitter versions. Trying to be something we’re not.
A guy like Dyche comes in every time this club needs liberating. Harry Redknapp after Ramos. Sherwood after AVB. We get so lost in our own bullshit that you need a demolition guy like Dyche to come in and just get us playing decent simple football again whilst putting an arm around the players and being strict but build our confidence.
We’re a pussy club. We need someone like Dyche at this moment in time. Is he the answer? No. But he’s necessary for where we are right now to steer the shit and get us back to basics because iv never seen a squad more lost. We cant even defend a set piece because weve got a hipster manager that thinks set pieces are beneath him and that just about sums up this fake wannabe persona this club has.
Sometimes you need a simple manager that is savvy and cunning enough to set up a solid team. Sometimes you need a 33 year old free agent William Gallas that joins just at the right time and is a useful addition to a bigger picture… everything we do is dogmatic and one way these days. Theres no flexibility in it anymore.
Good Lord
I don’t think it’ll happen but it should be today.
We can salvage the season. We don’t have bad players.
He does like his carbs
That was a bizarre thing to say I agree and I guess is a mark of how stubborn to the point of stupidity he can be
What gets to my nuts is we are in possession and attacking, yet our players STUCK SO CLOSE to opposition players for FUCK? They should be running away from them into spaces to receive the balls! Isn't that simple logic?Can we take a step back a second and look at some of the batshit tactics on display today?
Here was our set up just before the second goal:
(Note, we are 1 minute to half time and somehow we're drawing away at the Emirates. Any novice manager knows, whatever you do now, do NOT concede. Do NOT hand them an easy goal. Just get to half time and then breathe. Anyway, here's how we set up):
So we have Djed Spence passing it into Bissouma, who doesn't have a supporting midfielder within 40 yards of him. The centre circle is completely empty. Porro for some reason is making a move up to the right wing (well, we know the reason; this is where Ange has told him to be). HUGE gap between the two centre backs, Archie not even in the picture.
Now, don't get me wrong, Bissouma loses the ball badly. But sometimes players lose the ball, and up to that point Bissouma had had a pretty good game. You can't plan your tactics assuming all your players will do everything 100% right on the pitch; you have to mitigate for the occasional error.
Anyway, what should be completely clear here is, if Bissouma loses the ball here, we are fucked. Woolwich have 6 players ready to pounce, and they are man-to-man on our CBs, who are completely exposed with no protection by Sarr or Bergvall; our right back nowhere to be seen, our 2 other central midfielders pushing up (having been clearly told to do so by the manager).
So, our set up is a joke. Porro should be 20 yards back, and Sarr should be on the centre spot, at the very least.
Beyond that, Spence probably shouldn't be passing to Bissouma there, and Bissouma certainly shouldn't be turning and dribbling with so little cover. I wonder who is telling them to try to dribble and intricate pass it out from here? Probably the same guy who's told Porro to ignore Leandro Trossard and Sarr and Bergvall to push up, don't you think? Because it's the exact same set up we have whenever we have possession. And it constantly leaves us exposed.
Anyway, here we are two seconds later:
How many times have we seen this? An opposition team bearing down on our poor exposed centre backs with no cover? Too many times this season to count.
Make no mistake; at this point we're already completely fucked. Yes Dragusin should have eventually closed down Trossard better, and Kinsky done better with the shot.
But that's not the reason why we concede here. We concede because
- 1) our absolutely BATSHIT set up leaves us completely exposed whenever we lose possession in this part of the pitch and
- 2) our manager has told our players they MUST pass it out the back even if we're a minute from half time and drawing at the Emirates.
I think sometimes we can get a bit wrapped up in the results side of things, in the Ange in/out argument. But here is cast iron evidence that this man is not coaching this team properly, that he doesn't have a good football instinct of what to get his guys to do on the pitch.
And then to shank our two DMs at half time, and play Bergvall as a solo 6 flanked by Maddison and Kulu was the icing on the cake. As if we needed FEWER defensive mids not more
So so utterly out of his depth tactically, not to mention emotionally or anything else. It should be beyond question now.
Whenever I see this kind of play, I think the players are already shirking their responsibilities and hope they don't get passed the balls. Is like the beginning to an end.
He’d be mental to join us mid season.
The only reason Ange can still be in the job is the likes of Iraola, Silva, and Frank have told Levy to go fuck himself.
I think we have one option now. It is to sack Ange the writing is on the wall it has been since the Chelsea game, The simple fact is we have lost way too many games since the start of 2024 and we cannot be paralysed into to not making a decision.
The next step should be simple because we have tried your supposed elite managers in Conte and Mourinho they either failed or were not backed all is trivial now because they are in the past.
The biggest problem now is bringing in someone who can actually steady the ship. At the moment we are sinking and look an absolute mess.
The next step should be simple because we have tried your supposed elite managers in Conte and Mourinho they either failed or were not backed all is trivial now because they are in the past.
The biggest problem now is bringing in someone who can actually steady the ship. At the moment we are sinking and look an absolute mess.
Someone needs to tell Ange we are a London team - beating London rivals should be one of the biggest KPI. We are so fucking passive against the scum and chavs it's no longer funny.
Players are cowards. Could argue he’s overachieved with these wastrels and it could get worse if he’s sacked. I would think Mason would get us relegated tbh
Someone should tell him its Man City and the win would piss Tottenham fans off and he'll soon get them pumped up.
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Plus he has a chip on his shoulder