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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Some wild takes in here :D

Our squad is much better than what it's currently showing but I don't think it's top 4 material, it's top 6 and pushing top 4 IMO
I don’t usually agree with you, but I think 5th -8th is probably the realistic limit of this team. With borderline +/- 1 position. Targeting the fringes of European spots, whatever for it takes.

We finished 5th, our rolling 18 month points tally is about 10th.

What is a fact is that our 2024 form and season to date form is way below that. What is also a fact is that we are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. We are falling way beyond that too.
 
I don’t usually agree with you, but I think 5th -8th is probably the realistic limit of this team. With borderline +/- 1 position. Targeting the fringes of European spots, whatever for it takes.

We finished 5th, our rolling 18 month points tally is about 10th.

What is a fact is that our 2024 form and season to date form is way below that. What is also a fact is that we are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. We are falling way beyond that too.
I think that being anywhere between 4th-7th is the fair expectation of any Spurs team given the money that Levy is actually willing to invest. Anything above that is over performing. And anything below is most definitely underperforming.

This team should not be 13th. 8th I can get but not 13th at this point in the season.
 
Probably on the same proviso as last season, that I'll go to some games and sell some games.

FOMO is what keeps me renewing.
And the alternative of "quality time" with the family is a hard choice.

And this is part of the problem.

Levy sees renewal staying high. Fans are not voting with their feet. He can up some prices again. The money is in the bank

I am sure Ange also gives us an increase in interest and I dare say membership money and sponsorship opportunities in other parts of the world. We are a global brand now.

Just like you’re not buying you’re ticket for purely football reasons I get the impression Ange is being given time other managers wouldn’t get for similar reasons.

We won’t get relegated. We might get make a cup final.

And I’m not sure exactly what Levy wants or needs from the football club right now. To stay relevant enough to get into a European super league I guess. Need to pull our fingers out to do that.
 
So….Forest for instance have a better squad than us? Really?
Forest debatable, but it’s closer than you think, particularly their starting 11 compared to ours.

But certainly Liverpool, Woolwich, City, Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa all have better squads than us. United if they get their act together potentially as well.

Point is, we’re a mid table side on paper.

We have absolutely no divine right to be challenging for top 4.
 
I just dont get why he'd get the cup games. We might yet salvage something from a shit season but wont if he stays, he just isnt upto it. He cant lose to Everton and expect to stay.
Our get out of jail card is the EL but fuck me this buck eejit has fucked up against Roma Gala and pub league no hopers Rangers. There’s nothing there that suggests we could even fluke it on a good day.
Every day that goes by makes it harder for a new guy to resurrect something.
The writing should’ve been on the wall Oct after the Palace and Brighton debacles with a 12 month ppg heading for bottom half of table.
 
The deeper you look into it the more it appears not just about injuries. Of course we have been unlucky in that respect, although some of it has been exacerbated by daft desperate decisions to rush players back such as Van der Ven and Romero before they were ready.
But if you look back further to last season we got 6 points from our last 7 matches with the two victories being against Burnley and an already relegated Sheff Utd. During those 7 matches both Romero and VDV were fit.
So the last 28 PL games have yielded 30 points or put another way 30 points from a possible 84. Almost relegation form over an equivalent period of 3/4 of a season.
He is out of his depth
 
The deeper you look into it the more it appears not just about injuries. Of course we have been unlucky in that respect, although some of it has been exacerbated by daft desperate decisions to rush players back such as Van der Ven and Romero before they were ready.
But if you look back further to last season we got 6 points from our last 7 matches with the two victories being against Burnley and an already relegated Sheff Utd. During those 7 matches both Romero and VDV were fit.
So the last 28 PL games have yielded 30 points or put another way 30 points from a possible 84. Almost relegation form over an equivalent period of 3/4 of a season.
He is out of his depth
but the first ten games, mate
 
The last 2 performances were unacceptable for me. Lack of heart and fight in both games. After such a strong display against Liverpool, its so frustrating.

I think Ange will be lucky to finish the season. Its become unacceptable whats happened and we can never accept the unacceptable!
 
The deeper you look into it the more it appears not just about injuries. Of course we have been unlucky in that respect, although some of it has been exacerbated by daft desperate decisions to rush players back such as Van der Ven and Romero before they were ready.
But if you look back further to last season we got 6 points from our last 7 matches with the two victories being against Burnley and an already relegated Sheff Utd. During those 7 matches both Romero and VDV were fit.
So the last 28 PL games have yielded 30 points or put another way 30 points from a possible 84. Almost relegation form over an equivalent period of 3/4 of a season.
He is out of his depth
You're being unfair here. We don't have Harry Kane, what more can we expect?

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And this is part of the problem.

Levy sees renewal staying high. Fans are not voting with their feet. He can up some prices again. The money is in the bank

I am sure Ange also gives us an increase in interest and I dare say membership money and sponsorship opportunities in other parts of the world. We are a global brand now.

Just like you’re not buying you’re ticket for purely football reasons I get the impression Ange is being given time other managers wouldn’t get for similar reasons.

We won’t get relegated. We might get make a cup final.

And I’m not sure exactly what Levy wants or needs from the football club right now. To stay relevant enough to get into a European super league I guess. Need to pull our fingers out to do that.
You and I aren't ever going to fix the Levy problem.
Sure, money is money for ENIC, but they'll know how many people attending games aren't the actual season ticket holders. The more it happens, the more they will get nervous about a lack of renewals.

In reality though, none of it matters anymore. The football team is just a regular act at the multipurpose Tottenham Arena now.
If Ange and the boys don't improve, Levy is more likely to cancel Spurs and give the venue to another team.
 
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