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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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8andA1/2Peppers said:
We don't have the luxury of waiting for the "perfect manager" to start a new "project". We're sliding down the table and are in desperation mode of needing a coaching setup that's better than the one we've got.

And when you look at it from that perspective.. A potential shortlist starts to look quite long.
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I never want to hear the word "project manager" again. It's absolute bollocks.
 
Matt1882 said:
You and I aren't ever going to fix the Levy problem.
Sure, money is money for ENIC, but they'll know how many people attending games aren't the actual season ticket holders. The more it happens, the more they will get nervous about a lack of renewals.

In reality though, none of it matters anymore. The football team is just a regular act at the multipurpose Tottenham Arena now.
If Ange and the boys don't improve, Levy is more likely to cancel Spurs and give the venue to another team.
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Renewals always hold firm. FOMO wins. Even with someone like Ange in charge who the ST holder has zero faith in.
 
When we have a fit team Ange's tactics work well and with the right players I think we can be successful under him....

But his refusal to play more pragmatically when he's had to use the same 14 players with a game every 3 days for 2 months (and they are operating at 60-70% capacity) is a joke. Last night watching our players half heartedly committing to an aggresisve press and watching themArsenal totally dominate us was pathetic and unacceptable. Son and Kulusevski were really useless. When Bissouma lost the ball inside our own half for their winner (when we were attempting to play out from the back), Porro had fucked off up to the edge of their box. When Bissouma lost it their LWF had a clear run. Such naive football.
 
AberdeenYid said:
I like Ange as a person. I actually enjoy his interviews. Think he’s more honest than a lot of managers out there.

I don’t even mind his tactics. I like what he’s trying to do. Does try the odd wee tweak (two left up front for their corners last night), but we need a reset, not tweaks.

But he doesn’t have the players to do it, so should react to this and do something else until he does.

And it’s unforgivable to not have the players hitting the field last night baying for blood.
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They might have hit the field baying for blood but their balls quickly shrivelled.

How does any manager cope with the lack of testicular fortitude at this club? There is just a horrible inferiority complex. From the first couple of minutes of the game when they press us to fuck and we start panicking, you know we are going to lose.

I actually predicted that we would break the cycle this time, without Saka who usually beats us on his own and no pressure in terms of our league position I figured we would go there, play our football without fear and cause an upset. More fool me.

They really aren't that good but we made them look good. We just capitulated like a bunch of bitches.

I just don't see a way out of it, until we start buying players on big money with ambition, proper footballers that want to win this is what we doomed to be in these big games.
 
TheSpurEst said:
Look, guys. I've already kind of used to the fact that Ange does not manage team during the game. Just sulks there with weird expression on his face on the sidelines. But today hit a new low for me.

I was watching the game and in first half I felt that - yea, possession-wise, Woolwich was dominating. But we were solid! We did not go pressing in their 3rd, and that was fine, cause we could contain them in our half. On other side we managed to counter them and created few really good chances. OK, we conceded one from the corner (that never should have been corner) and then got carved open when Bissouma lost the ball. But even at 1:2 at half time I was kind of hopeful. We were able to contain them in defense and stinged on the counter. First half time xG - 0,57 for them: 0,36 for us (info from Understat; in some other sources HT xG was even 0,38 to us and 0,33 for them).

Then, enter tactical mastermind of Ange ... took off our midfield (Bissouma and Sarr)... to bring on Madders and Johnson (?!?).

2nd half we were all over the place. Conceded many good chances and did not create anything ourselves. I saw not a single moment from 2nd half that would have made me believe we could get something from it.
xG for 2nd half - 1,69 for them and 0,42 (!) for us.

And what did our master tactician say after game?!?
Highlighted POOR FIRST HALF PERFORMANCE. And said we improved on the 2nd half ?!? Never been more WTF with him before really.

He really claimed that half where our xG improved by 0,09 while we allowed them to improve their xG by 1,12 was AN IMPROVEMENT? Come on, he is definition of clueless. He could not notice an acceptable playing spell when it hits him into face. And praised the half where Woolwich was clearly the better side. Is he actively trying to get sacked to talk such absolute bullshit?!?
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I disagree about the second half. We needed to get points. To do that we needed to score. More of the same meant a loss. I thought it was high risk high reward strategy taking off two defensive-minded mids for two attackers. We had more of the ball played in their half, we were in the front foot. (you could say they let us, whatever).

What we lacked is players with pace up front. Solanke, Kulu, Richie Son are too slow.

In the end we didn't score again and neither did they.

Quite frankly for a team in its FIFTH year of delopment they are shit.
 
This needs to stop somewhere. I'd get over a loss to Everton if that's what it takes. Levy need to dig out his Klarna card. Ange is finished, Son is finished. There's a decent group of players here otherwise but they need coaching.
 
Google "Postecoglou sack" and there is definitely more traffic than usual.

www.football365.com

Postecoglou sack: Tottenham boss is 'alone' as 'miserable' players will be saved by kind dismissal

Woolwich legend Emmanuel Petit has suggested that Ange Postecoglou looks "really alone" at Tottenham and he'll be sacked, with the club's players "miserable" at the moment.
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https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-postecoglou-sack-spurs-Woolwich-arteta-transfers

https://www.football365.com/news/po...t-embarrassing-spurs-players-shamed-teenagers

Plenty of people finally writing about it and making the right noises.
 
It's really hard to decide what I think about Ange. Ultimately, I don't think he's anything approaching a top level coach for this league. I do think he's a good communicator, I think the players give what they have for him, I do think his teams play with a gimmicky style that can be scintillating when it works / the team are in good shape / players are fit / the opposition are play us suitably. Our squad is obviously deficient, our talismanic forward is aging out, our best players (Kulusevski, Romero, VDV) aren't really top level players. Is Romero and VDV a top cb partnership in a more sensible team? Closer to it, yeah.

Watching that game last night, whatever about our cb partnership, a team with more clinical forwards batters us. I think our oop shape is generally appalling. I do give Ange until season's end. Judge him on the run-in and how we do in the cups, not on this injury-hit period. I'm quite relaxed about it all, I don't really expect us to be a top-ish team for a while yet, if ever.
 
Matt1882 said:
TBH, if I didn't think I'd get forced to do something even worse, I'd probably give it up.
It's little more than an excuse now to get out of the house.
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Just join your local beach running club.

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Matt1882 said:
Google "Postecoglou sack" and there is definitely more traffic than usual.

www.football365.com

Postecoglou sack: Tottenham boss is 'alone' as 'miserable' players will be saved by kind dismissal

Woolwich legend Emmanuel Petit has suggested that Ange Postecoglou looks "really alone" at Tottenham and he'll be sacked, with the club's players "miserable" at the moment.
www.football365.com www.football365.com



Plenty of people finally writing about it and making the right noises.
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I don’t think that losing by one goal at Woolwich will be enough for Levy to pull the trigger, irrespective of how poor we were, but the next four games are massive for Ange.

Nothing less than three wins and a draw (at Everton) will be enough to save him.
 
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