They’ll just turn the music up. I was there that day and it was horrible.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I'm Ange Out but I still struggle to see the long term benefit of sacking him now and replacing him with the wrong person. We all know who the right man is and he won't be available until the Summer.
None of us want to do the Mason thing again so it's hard to see who can come in and finish out the season as head coach. Mason is the obvious one! Levy won't open old wounds with Harry Redknapp or Tim Sherwood so I think it's either Ange or Mason until May. If I'm being totally honest, I'd still let Ange have it until May.
None of us want to do the Mason thing again so it's hard to see who can come in and finish out the season as head coach. Mason is the obvious one! Levy won't open old wounds with Harry Redknapp or Tim Sherwood so I think it's either Ange or Mason until May. If I'm being totally honest, I'd still let Ange have it until May.
Yup.
Still up to Ange to figure out a way to cope with the injuries - but anyone denying the impact of losing Vicario, Romero and VDV all at the same time, as well as Bentancur's ban is just not willing to have a serious conversation.
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The whole "I trust Ange to see out the season" argument makes me understand how a certain orange blob managed to win two elections in America.
Mason *might* get us higher up the table. I’m not sure Ange is going to. There’s the difference. For me at least.
Oh Christ I forgot that was today.
Maybe WWIII will break out before we can get relegated.
Take that, universe.
Brave for posting that in here, I would have hit them with this after a win personally.
To the Evangelist thread
Brave for posting that in here, I would have hit them with this after a win personally.
To the Evangelist thread
Weird how with a certain poster who is sin-binned, despite tensions being high, some posts are 'allowed' in here without a torrent of abuse being thrown our way.
Let’s face it, you might get us higher up the table than Ange based on current results.
Enic will never sell why we are down. They will want top dollar so will only sell if we are flying high. Think Catch 22
People want warm lies, I deal in cold truths.Brave for posting that in here, I would have hit them with this after a win personally.
To the Evangelist thread
It makes them feel better to believe this is all the manager’s fault and it would be better under a different coach.
I don’t really care when or why I say what I see because it’s true, inconvenient or not.
We were 10th before any real injuries hit.
Having given Crystal Palace their first win.
Throwing away 2:0 lead to Brighton. And then totally shat the pants against Ipswich. At home.
So try again.
We were garbage with fully fit squad as well.
After Ipswich game we had 1,45 ppg, corresponding to 55 points per season which is 8th to 11th place finish.
Also you really don't get that injury crisis is result of Ange actions, do you?
Who:
- made a decision to throw in TWO starting XI CB's after injury lay-off IN ONE GAME, just to see them both get reinjured? Result of Ange decisions.
- made a decision that it is good idea to never use Djed Spence for roughly half a season and play Udogie and Porro to the ground. Now one injured, other playing really poorly. Result of Ange decisions.
- made a decision that Kulusevski must play full 90 minutes and Solanke 82 minutes vs Southampton when we were leading 5:0 (!) by half time?!?
- gives direction to players to go on 100% every moment, making us team that restarts the play with by far the shortest delay of any teams in winning position. Effectively deciding to take time for recovery off from our players? Result of Ange decisions.
I have never seen anything similar to that before Ange time.
And now I see players dropping like flies for 2nd season in a row.
How blind you have to be not to see a direct link here?
He is just not even half qualified to manage on that league. And gets outsmarted on consistent basis by managers that are roughly half his age (literally - Hürzerel as Brighton manager was 31 when he outsmarted Postecoglu who is 59, to win it from 2:0 down) ?
I think the loss of Richy, Moore, and Odobert has been almost as bad as losing the CBs. Forwards need to rest and rotate in a pressing system. The whole system is built around defending from the front and knackered Son/Kulu/Solanke can’t do that
Then at least we've tried to stop it?
Better than doing nothing and just letting it happen anyway
Ah you mean like with Harry Redknapp? After we won the League Cup, sold Keane and Berbatov at the end of the summer transfer window, replaced them both with Frazer Campbell and then started to scratch our heads, 'wha's going on' before blaming Ramos for being a shite manager and his 'Titantic' run of 2pts from 8 games
Look into my eyes...
You said we pressed them off the park until Bentancur injury.
Which stopped game roughly on 8th minute mark.
I indeed was happy. Specially for Bergvall for scoring his first goal for us!
But I also knew than and know now that this was half time not the full match.
Magic Eight Ball says Unlikely
Don't worry when he's eventually let out of jail he'll go back and quote it, he's probably got his response lined up in his drafts as we speak and is counting down the days until he can unleash his wrath, can't wait!
Why Mason and not Matty Wells who is now above Mason in the hierarchy.
Didn’t we have Bent and Pavlyuchenko and there was some theory they couldn’t play together. The start of that season was comedic.Ah you mean like with Harry Redknapp? After we won the League Cup, sold Keane and Berbatov at the end of the summer transfer window, replaced them both with Frazer Campbell and then started to scratch our heads, 'wha's going on' before blaming Ramos for being a shite manager and his 'Titantic' run of 2pts from 8 games
Look into my eyes...
I’ll go with the chart instead of the league position because the league table was so tight at that stage, 1 result was the difference between 10th and 3rd.We were 10th before any real injuries hit.
Having given Crystal Palace their first win.
Throwing away 2:0 lead to Brighton. And then totally shat the pants against Ipswich. At home.
So try again.
We were garbage with fully fit squad as well.
After Ipswich game we had 1,45 ppg, corresponding to 55 points per season which is 8th to 11th place finish.
Also you really don't get that injury crisis is result of Ange actions, do you?
Who:
- made a decision to throw in TWO starting XI CB's after injury lay-off IN ONE GAME, just to see them both get reinjured? Result of Ange decisions.
- made a decision that it is good idea to never use Djed Spence for roughly half a season and play Udogie and Porro to the ground. Now one injured, other playing really poorly. Result of Ange decisions.
- made a decision that Kulusevski must play full 90 minutes and Solanke 82 minutes vs Southampton when we were leading 5:0 (!) by half time?!?
- gives direction to players to go on 100% every moment, making us team that restarts the play with by far the shortest delay of any teams in winning position. Effectively deciding to take time for recovery off from our players? Result of Ange decisions.
I have never seen anything similar to that before Ange time.
And now I see players dropping like flies for 2nd season in a row.
How blind you have to be not to see a direct link here?
He is just not even half qualified to manage on that league. And gets outsmarted on consistent basis by managers that are roughly half his age (literally - Hürzerel as Brighton manager was 31 when he outsmarted Postecoglu who is 59, to win it from 2:0 down) ?
Ange has made mistakes but some of those I find difficult to evaluate without all the information to hand. What you are doing in that post is assuming the missing information and taking an emotional position as a result.
You really think we’d be 15th if we didn’t lose half our squad for 2 months?