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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Ed Vanderlay said:
I have written the next 5 years off . I am now hoping Jan Vertonghen becomes a decent manager and he joins us and brings back the joy .

2030 Super Jan time

Thinking anything good can be achieved in the next 5 years with ENIC is now beyond me
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Imagine Super Jan winning a cup and running onto the pitch in his tailored suit and ripping it in true celebration.

Oh wait, winning a cup. My bad, forgot it’s Spurs.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Admittedly that one was a bit self indulgent poking fun at the “Ange is to blame for injuries” crew.

Same was when everyone caught flu and we had to play Liverpool full strength.

It’s just an absurd narrative to me that’s all
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If you can't see how Ange is responsible for the zillion hamstring injuries we've had to ensure the past 2 seasons, well I don't know what to say pal.

Oh I get it, probably the refs' fault.
 
TonySoprano said:
So what if we win a trophy? You can still get rid of him. Ten Haag won 2 and was still clueless. Ramos won our last trophy…

If Ange wins a trophy, lovely. You say thanks very much for that now let’s move on.
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Not sure the club will see it that way especially if there is an uptick in form in the league when everyone gets back and if there are new signings this window.

I thought everton would be the last straw but it seems not. Maybe leicester at home if we dont win.
 
Klaus said:
Up until this point I thought your average fan probably had a vague idea of what they were watching on the pitch. You know, basic tactics, common sense. Especially the ones who'd been watching the sport for 30-40 years and had thousands of games under their belt.

But the reaction this absolute fucking mess of a match—and from all corners, not just Spurs fans—was a real shock. Never seen anything more stupid take place on a football pitch in my life, and yet you have the sheep in the stadium clapping like seals, and all the pundits cooing like they'd just witnessed Guardiola reinvent the wheel.

Now I think most people I think just watch football with their brain disengaged; to them it's just a bunch of different coloured shirts running around, a chance to yell at the TV, and you cheer when the ball goes in the right net. Only way you can explain the absolute insanity we're seeing now too, where most of the fans are still backing this charlatan. No wonder we're fucking doomed as a species.
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I'm telling you this woke me up fully. And I'm serious when I tell you the reactions to our football now have changed the way I use this site. Some contributors are not on ignore but I do not read what they have to say. The tactical stupidity and inability to analyse what they are seeing is so profound that I don't read their posts. There not even the ones that obviously do not support the club and want attention. It's worse they do not understand and it's very clear. Despite the love of informatics, buzz words and tactical speak.
 
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bus-conductor said:
Vicario

Porro——-Romero——-VVD——-Udogie
Spence———Dragusin——-????———Davies
Bentancur———Bissouma——Maddison
Bergval———Grey———-Sarr
Kulu————-Solanke————Son
Johnson——-?????——-Oddbod
Werner———???????——-Moore​

Davies and Moore are one game back, but had been unavailable for weeks.I have never seen an injury list at Spurs like this in all my time, that I can remember. And this is a fucking meh team/squad to start with.

As I’ve said before, I’m ambivalent about Ange being sacked or not, don’t mind if he’s given to the end of the season, but if there’s someone good who’ll come in, don’t mind that either, but I really don’t know what people expect from a) this squad b) what’s left of this squad.

No matter who comes in.
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Johnson out for 4 weeks too.
 
MemphisWill said:
Lewis will sell either when the Super League is active or when the coffin is nailed shut on the Super League (my guess is the latter never occurs as the former is inevitable).

The Super League is the next great explosion in (some) football clubs' values. Currently, despite being the world's most popular game, there are only 6 clubs more valuable than the least valuable NFL team (Bayern, Madrid, Barca, Liverpool, United, City). The football clubs continue to fall further behind, and are now being overtaken by the NBA with 3 NBA teams more valuable than the richest football club, Madrid. There are 8 nFL teams more valuable than Madrid, and that number increases every year.

The structure of football inhibits the growth of clubs' values, which is why the monied interests behind the game want a change. A fixed structure Super League would catapult those clubs'values into the stratosphere, similar to the way the PL international TV and commercialization deals ballooned values (the first big wave ENIC benefitted from).

As members of an operational Super League, THFC would likely be worth £6-10B. That's double or more than the £3B it's currently worth.

With that sort of bubble on the horizon, there's no chance ENIC sell.
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NFL /MLB / NBA is make more revenue because its in the United States.
The sports there is also operated differently from Europe. Most leagues in the US have about 20 to 30 teams max with no relegations. All teams also have salary caps and the revenue (Like TV deals) is split evenly between teams.
So the US team owners actually make money off of their ownership win or lose... while as European football owners lose money if they are not winning. So its natural that they are worth more.

Creating a super league wouldn't overcome the US. Their market itself is just larger than the whole EU combined and basketball/baseball is getting more popular around the world.
 
harry7 said:
We know that when we have been cooking under Ange, we have been excellent, and you could certainly see the foundations of a title challenge in the next couple of years.

BUT, once again, as momentum builds the board once again fails to back the manager.

After losing Kane; and still managing the finish 5th, despite a season littered with injuries - we lose experienced players in Skipp, Royal, Dier, Holjberg, Perisic - and replace them with Grey, Yang, Odobert, Solanke, Bergvall. 4 x 18 years olds and a striker who is bang average.

With our history of injuries - why on earth did well sell arguably our leader and best player last season in Holjberg????? A man that has never been injured. A warrior. Yet we kept Bentencaur who has a serious knee injury that will likely mean he never really plays at a decent level again; and Bissouma who plays every game like its a kickabout with his mates down the local park.

So, either the club acknowledges that we will be shite for 3-4 years whilst these kids learn how to play football; or they are entirely inept.

ANGE and his system can only be judged when he has the players available. Grey, Bergvall, Sarr, Dragusin, Moore, Odobert aren't ready to be starters. They should be getting minutes in cups, or off the bench. Not starting games. It's no accident that Liverpool don't have anyone under 21 in their squad; and their matchday squad is typically all 24+ with 1 kid rotated.

The experienced players in our squad are Richy, Solanke, Maddison, Bissouma, Kulu, Son and Romero. All but Kulu are in torrid form and none of them are leaders.
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Yes Hojbjerg shouldn't have been sold without being properly replaced but I'm certain Ange didn't just let him go. I'm sure Hojbjerg sensed or was outright told he'd be unwanted and/or on the fringes this season.
 
Rooster said:
NFL /MLB / NBA is make more revenue because its in the United States.
The sports there is also operated differently from Europe. Most leagues in the US have about 20 to 30 teams max with no relegations. All teams also have salary caps and the revenue (Like TV deals) is split evenly between teams.
So the US team owners actually make money off of their ownership win or lose... while as European football owners lose money if they are not winning. So its natural that they are worth more.

Creating a super league wouldn't overcome the US. Their market itself is just larger than the whole EU combined and basketball/baseball is getting more popular around the world.
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That’s all valid but there is a reason our big clubs are courted and now owned by Americans. They recognise the investment potential of football as a sport hasn’t been fully realised.
The likes of Glazer, FSG, Boehly, Kroenke are all here because they think we can monetise more from the PL than we already do. A lot more.
 
TonySoprano said:
That’s all valid but there is a reason our big clubs are courted and now owned by Americans. They recognise the investment potential of football as a sport hasn’t been fully realised.
The likes of Glazer, FSG, Boehly, Kroenke are all here because they think we can monetise more from the PL than we already do. A lot more.
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Yes, but the problem is, what are the consequences of it?
Obviously, the rich don't care shit about what fans think or the league left behind.
The aftermath of big clubs leaving home leagues to create a new one can either destroy the remaining clubs behind or the super league fails miserably... what after?
 
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