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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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I also don’t think Ange has played a bad hand well and most weeks he’s doing things that fuck me off. Which is why I’m ambivalent.
He’s played a bad hand terribly.

Yesterday was borderline trolling. Gray and Porro larking about beyond the halfway line for shits and giggles. And the second goal was disgusting - the absolute vacuum in the middle of the pitch as Sarr decided to just randomly press on his own.

It’s awful football and I’ve never known us to be this badly coached.
 
Right now he's got us on the brink of relegation, 12 defeats already and still 16 games left. Humiliated by Coventry...and Tamworth. Could've lost to Ferencvaros, Qarabag and AZ. Should've conceded about 12 to Galatasaray and Roma. Humbled by not just our cunty neighbours, but Brighton, Palace. Dropped points to powerhouses like Leicester, fucking Ipswich at home.

Everyone in the footy media, ex pros, fans of other teams...they all know he's a clown, that his system is jokes and that he's an arrogant, unbearable prick to boot. Not even limited to the UK, they think likewise in France, Germany, Italy...

But yeah we beat City and United a couple times, taking a 1-goal lead to Anfield. And he says mate a lot.

Yipee fucking doo.

My Your head coach.
Well put

Our cup performances have been awful too. Ex Liverpool
 
Come on, look at the players those managers had at Chelsea, proven winners, culture of success, owners that bought their way to success

This club is not built to win anything, the current players have shown no sign of having the balls to win anything, just look at the forward players we have, probably the worst set of attackers we've had at the club since 1997...... yes the league form has been unacceptable but it will be a miracle if Ange manages to win a trophy with this lot. Doesn't make him elite but no need to disrespect what would be a big achievement at this moment in the clubs history.
I remember a game under George Graham where we started Andy Booth (on loan from Wednesday a division below us) and Dave McEwan (bought from Dulwich Hamlet who were non league). Hard to find worse than that unless you recall FA Cup 3rd round at OT where we started Rory Allen and Neal Fenn... and let's not forget Gregor Raziak. To be fair, this forward line is no where near the worst we've had!!!
 
You are now bringing up games we could've lost as humiliations? WTAF
Ah yeah cause squeezing past true European giants like them 3, needing ET to knock out a non-league team and Djed saving Ange's ass in the dying moments vs a poor Champo team...they're all great results cause we won. Gotcha.

Would you tolerate for a second anyone bringing up games we could've won as something to be proud of?
Many times I've said we shoulda won vs Leicester or Newcastle this season...and West Ham, Villa (home) or Wolves last year.

Do you read your own posts back before hitting send?
I mean, YOU trying to mug me off about my posts? Really? The guy who openly admits he's checked out, doesn't watch games and who gets all excited about players he knows nothing about except watching their YT highlights. You wanna make it personal and go for cheap shots...fine, let's have it. You been acting a right baby for weeks on here, brother. You used to be a good poster and one I liked interacting with, though I often disagreed with your takes. When you took a break from TFC, that's why I even DM'd you to make sure you was okay and to say you'd been missed. Now you're just embarrassing yourself post after post. Holla back at me when you're ready to act grown up again cause I ain't that sweet on chatting Spurs with a 12yo with mirror mirror type comebacks.
 
Ah yeah cause squeezing past true European giants like them 3, needing ET to knock out a non-league team and Djed saving Ange's ass in the dying moments vs a poor Champo team...they're all great results cause we won. Gotcha.


Many times I've said we shoulda won vs Leicester or Newcastle this season...and West Ham, Villa (home) or Wolves last year.


I mean, YOU trying to mug me off about my posts? Really? The guy who openly admits he's checked out, doesn't watch games and who gets all excited about players he knows nothing about except watching their YT highlights. You wanna make it personal and go for cheap shots...fine, let's have it. You been acting a right baby for weeks on here, brother. You used to be a good poster and one I liked interacting with, though I often disagreed with your takes. When you took a break from TFC, that's why I even DM'd you to make sure you was okay and to say you'd been missed. Now you're just embarrassing yourself post after post. Holla back at me when you're ready to act grown up again cause I ain't that sweet on chatting Spurs with a 12yo with mirror mirror type comebacks.
Sorry to disappoint you mate
 
What's in it for us, supporters? Fuck all, really.

What's in it for the owners? Billions of pounds.

To understand the attraction, you have to understand that billionaires finances are wholly different than ours. They don't collect paycheques/dividends. This is why few stocks these days pay dividends - dividends are coveted by average investors, but useless to billionaires they don't want income. They live on credit extended to them based on the value of their holdings. So when Spurs' values doubles, Lewis' values doubles and his access to capital greatly increases. That capital can be accessed to fund further investments. Money begets money.

What's in it for the club? A more competitive landscape. A closed structure Super League would enact salary controls - the billionaires don't want to frivolously waste money needlessly on players. They'd still pay the highest salaries in the world (like the NBA) so would get the best players - but collectively bargaining salary controls provides a fixed cost of labor that can be pegged to the fixed value of collectively bargained revenue (broadcasting, merchandising, etc.) And guarantees profits and growrh for owners.

In a fixed salary structure league, who "succeeds" and "fails" is about who is the best and most efficient at squad building. So, with out current setup, we'd probably not thrive, obviously. Liverpool, probably would. But the chances of us winning would be much higher in that league than in our current league, where we have to be exponentially more efficient because we have to overcome a base spending inequity. In a fixed salary Super League, we'd just have to be better at spending the same amount of money we're allowed to spend.

This is why the Knicks and Cowboys are not successful, despite being the vastly most valuable teams in their sports - they're shit at building teams and cannot leverage their value advantage to offset their lack of squad building talent.
The Cowboys are shite because the owner thinks he's a GM when the reality is he's a senile old fool who lucked out on Jimmy Johnson who built a dynasty for him. He then parted ways with Jimmy because everybody knew it was Jimmy's team and not Jerry's... Dallas Cowboys = Tottenham Hotspur of the NFL
 
Well put

Our cup performances have been awful too. Ex Liverpool
Nah mate, we won them games so obviously we deserved it and they were great performances. That's how it works.

And think of all them wins Ange coached but the players didn't execute (feat Doom Funk Doom Funk ).

Or the ones when the big bad ref & media conspiracy vs Spurs robbed us.

And the injuries for which our jeffe ain't to blame.

We'd be top of the league and well on our way to winning the quadruple but Ange's had such bad luck, the poor fella. But the world will soon realise he's the Ozzie Cruyff meets Pep...just better.
 
Iriola is obviously doing a better job than Ange. See my subsequent post.
Yeah, but your previous post was apology and your "subsequent post" was afterthought...and this post was made 7 minutes after my reply to your "subsequent post"...

what people would expect is some value added from the manager. For folks that are AngeIN, and you are that though you are taking a much more diplomatic tact, you have not been disabused of your position and anyone that has locked horns with you will know this...you are lying in wait for that 5 game win streak so you can pop up and say "SEE!?!?!?!?".

There is nothing to Ange which is why he can't get a song out of the squad and why once there was video and other coaches cottoned on, our results went downhill. I've been saying this to you since the first 10 games...it's all gimmick...nothing substantive to his game. Which is why there is no future with this guy...and getting 20 more of the best players in the world doesn't validate him, it damns his nothingness. Iraola is doing more with less and just as many injuries...that's value added...that's worth keeping (or pursuing, in our case).

I too hope he lasts the season...and I have been consistent in this. But that's only so you and other bad-faithers can't pop up and tell us what a great coach he was and how he would have been successful but for those pesky injuries...it's not true, he's really bad.
 
The Cowboys are shite because the owner thinks he's a GM when the reality is he's a senile old fool who lucked out on Jimmy Johnson who built a dynasty for him. He then parted ways with Jimmy because everybody knew it was Jimmy's team and not Jerry's... Dallas Cowboys = Tottenham Hotspur of the NFL
As a Cowboys fan for almost 40 years, you don't have to explain it to me.

Dallas is definitely not the Spurs of the NFL though. United is more like the Cowboys of the PL, honestly.
 
Refuse come tomorrow, so I’ll bung Ange out with the rest of the crap later
I don't think the guys on the dust will want him. The truck will break down and he will want the crew to pass the rubbish around outside the homes of residents who pay top council tax dropping left overs and old nappies all over the place.

When challenged he will tell the residents that he's down a couple of regulars and we're having to do two rounds a day with same crew but I'll turn it around...

Picturing Simpsons episode where Homer became Sanatation Commissioner...

This has decended pretty rapidly but such are these days...
 
The Cowboys are shite because the owner thinks he's a GM when the reality is he's a senile old fool who lucked out on Jimmy Johnson who built a dynasty for him. He then parted ways with Jimmy because everybody knew it was Jimmy's team and not Jerry's... Dallas Cowboys = Tottenham Hotspur of the NFL
Well, he did win one more after Jimmy and that is what he is living off of. He is more of a showman now than a owner. Kind of like Levy.
 
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