Anyone comparing Ange to Klopp at this point needs their head examined. He’s not a Klopp level elite manager.
What Liverpool season are you talking about btw?
When Van Djyk did his ACL? Or a different season?
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Anyone comparing Ange to Klopp at this point needs their head examined. He’s not a Klopp level elite manager.
What Liverpool season are you talking about btw?
When Van Djyk did his ACL? Or a different season?
right ok....and?
I don't get what your point is? you're saying because it's a football forum you can lie about opinion? you can troll?
This is a Tottenham Hotspur Forum where regardless of the various characters we all should have one hope which is for the club to be performing at the very best.
You andRichard Arlison (who has now basically said he can lose every game and it still wouldn't change his mind) gave an opinion as to what Ange has to do to survive and you both clearly stated what you felt...he fails at the very first hurdle and you guys are on here again arguing to others about the same thing like you didn't make those comments and that result didn't happen.
Between malice, stupidity, and deliberate misrepresentation, incredible feats of logic have been accomplished on this forum.
There must be a certain percentage of the human population genetically predestined to be rhetorically sophisticated contrarian misanthropes. As an honest poster posting in good faith this will annoy you to no end.
Don't mind me- just saving this.
If we’re thinking about Big Sam as an interim manager, I’d rather have Big Martin Jol who’s a year younger than Sam.
Alright Vicario calm down
Brother please tell me what drugs you’re taking to enjoy this level of delusion!
Winning us the title
I don't necessarily disagree with you- you're free to choose whatever opinion you want, and change your mind as much as you want. It's funny as hell though for you to say that though! "Sir, this is a Wendy's".
People paying attention here, who are capable of sifting through the rhetorical quicksands and statistical manipulation, surely have a general idea of the score though.
I wish all the Ange in folks a lot of luck- just like Arne Slot did- I really hope they all win a trophy.
Brother you have a special place in my heart because I clearly have a special place in yours, good day x
Petit said on MNF that players blag it in their mind they're injured. Need to hurry the fuck up the injured players. Starting think they're hypochondriacs.
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At this rate Angelos will soon be in the Guinness book of records for being the only EPL head-coach to have managed to get a whole squad of players injured in 1 season
View: https://x.com/thespursweb/status/1882074882173010203
They should send a mass text out for all the traveling support tomorrow to bring boots in case they’re needed
Quite funny. Decent bloke. Wish to God he was as good a coach.
All I want is success
He could be Kermit the frog for all I care.
I have already put the trolling unit consisting of
Shadydan
and
Richard Arlison
on ignore some time ago.
If we just had two wingers as good at football as these two clowns spamming this forum to death, we would win the treble.
Shadydan
and
Richard Arlison
on ignore some time ago. If we just had two wingers as good at football as these two clowns spamming this forum to death, we would win the treble.
I have already put the trolling unit consisting of
If we just had two wingers as good at football as these two clowns spamming this forum to death, we would win the treble.
Alexa: Can you please define the words echo chamber...
If Ange could win us a cup (or "more"!
) - doing something that Conte, Mourinho, Poch, and Harry Redknapp couldn't do - then I don't understand why he wouldn't be able to lead us to Top 4? Seems a rather bizarre disqualification especially as to win Trophies you generally have to beat several of the best teams in Europe to do so.Of course, it's far more likely that he won't win anything and be sacked so it becomes a rather moot point.
The thing is though, an approach of "damn the torpedoes, forget controlling the game, just generate more chances and it will all work out" is much better optimized to succeed over a 38 game league season than a knockout cup competition.If Ange could win us a cup (or "more"!
Of course, it's far more likely that he won't win anything and be sacked so it becomes a rather moot point.
I think you just need to look at Juande Ramos to see how a trophy doesn't paper over league form.If Ange could win us a cup (or "more"!
Of course, it's far more likely that he won't win anything and be sacked so it becomes a rather moot point.
For sure but if Postecoglou (or any manager for that matter) were to win two trophies in a single season then I think it's a reach to suggest that manager shouldn't be considered capable of achieving 4th place.
How did Rafa go in the league when he was winning trophies with Liverpool? Can't quite remember but I don't really remember them seriously challenging so maybe you're right
A large part of the issue is how the media and, by extension, some of the fanbase have elevated Ange to almost mythical status. He's been pretty much portrayed as this revolutionary figure - a tactical visionary who could transform not only the club but English football as a whole. His success at Celtic, regardless of the differing levels of competition in the Scottish league, was also framed in a way that magnified his accomplishments. The narrative built up around him wasn’t just about winning; it was about how his teams played, his very likeable personality, and his “journey.” Adding onto this, he's got quite the aura about him. The great start we had under him just further enhanced this perception that he was the feggin Neo of super Tottenham, from the lane.None of the context of an injury crisis justifies being 15th. I have already explained why this is, and only a fool would try and argue otherwise. Even reasonable, pro-Ange posters have recognised this.
There is no world in which the team we had out against Everton was bad enough to compete as terribly as we did in that game, with a scoreline that flattered us massively. Nor does anything justify the absolute embarrassment that was the 90 mins vs Tamworth, or the other bazillion crap results beforehand. Nor the woeful end to last season where we were losing every single game with zero injuries. Our start to THIS season with a fully fit squad wasn't good either !!!!
Other, reasonable posters likeMemphisWill have explained this to you repeatedly (incl showing our PPG over the last year and a bloody half!) and you have ignored it because you are intent on defending this man right up until the very moment the board stick a knife in his chest.
With all that hype, as well as that little taster of the heights of what our football could be like at the start of last season, it was enough to get everyone all aboard the hype train, pumped and ready for the journey head. Allowing Ange to be protected from criticism and the sack to a much greater extent relative to form than any other manager I can remember in recent memory.
I think this all accumulatively set up a perception that it was almost divine intervention that he’d eventually, one way or another, replicate his previous successes with us. So naturally the vast majority of our fanbase largely glossed over some of the nuanced concerns about his past like his points per game records at his previous clubs, or how his defensive style might translate to our league.
I think this glamorisation, despite the obvious all too consistent woeful performance almost every other game it soon became, left some of us fans stuck in a sort of trance of self imposed denial, that we’re just a few tweaks or players away from seeing everything eventually click....
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Not great.
Gerard Houllier won cups for fun but never got nywhere in the league and got booted
early on he won a TREBLE
fa cup LC and EUFA cup