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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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So glad that the BBC are acknowledging that our problems run far far deeper than Postecoglou

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The absolute worse thing that could happen to our strangled and abused football club right now is another managerial sacking achieving little else but relieving the pressure on Levy / ENIC.
When Ange is fired, the pressure needs to be maintained relentlessly. No repeat of the disgusting Whoop whooping when Levy cringingley tells us "we have our Tottenham back" after a few decent performances.
 
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Harrier said:

View: https://youtu.be/rFTgYs_--lQ?si=nlWwZ_46pqGjZa3u

One of the questions the interviewer asks is if Ange is more hands on with the players given the circumstances. The answer is no.

Call me old fashioned, but how exactly are you meant to coach the players if you don’t interact with them regularly, and leave the coaching to your assistants?!

Weird!
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And here, Maddison shares the differences between the two managers after being asked how Postecoglou convinced him to sign for the London club.

Maddison told Golf Life, “He’s a good man [Postecolgou]. He’s a unique human being. You can tell he’s a brilliant man and when I spoke to him before I signed the first thing he said to me was congratulating me on the birth of my twins when I first met him.

“So I knew straight away he’s a good man but he’s also someone who will not let the manager/player relationship get too tight.

“For example like Brendan Rogers who I had for five years at Leicester, he was very arm around you and made you feel so good.

“Like you could go in his office for a coffee and talk. They’re both great men but just different. Ange keeps that manager/player relationship socially to a minimum, he wouldn’t mind me saying that I don’t think.

“Even though he doesn’t talk to you individually as much as someone like Brendan Rodgers would I still feel that he believes in me by the way he is and the way he conducts himself and talks in the meetings and he believes in me without me needing to hear it.”
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Midfielder O'Riley, 22, was signed by the Aussie coach in January 2022 and became a key part of the engine room during his tenure.

But for all his success, Postecoglou was known for keeping distance from his players.

Assistant boss John Kennedy alluded to it yesterday, commenting on how Rodgers' approach involved "being around people more socially".

Postecoglou famously admitted that he would never allow his players to get close to him - and wouldn't even sit with them for a coffee.

So, the new gaffer just sitting down to join his players at the lunch table has felt like a breath of fresh air, O'Riley revealed.

He told Celtic TV about Rodgers' impact: "So far it's been amazing.

"Everyone seems quite upbeat, and I think the manager brings that just in terms of how he goes about things.
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_mehstg said:
He's still here for 2 reasons with the same connotation.
1. Levy won't want to pay the severance package for Ange and his coaches
2. Levy doest want to pay the compensation to a club to pinch their manager.
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Levy has always paid top dollar for managers because he believes that's how you win without spending on players.

Trouble is he now believes that managerial stability is how you ensure player spending is kept low.
 
candrews said:
It's mindboggling how this thread see's more activity than the Levy / Ownership thread after a game like today. Everything that's wrong with Tottenham Hotspur football club. At this point if you're mainly blaming Ange you're just as much to blame as Levy and co.
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No one (I think) is mainly blaming Ange. There's rot at the core of the club which is our owners, but the reality is that it is very very hard to replace owners. Just look at Utd and the Glazers.
Managers, meanwhile, change frequently and easily. Often the players are to blame and managers are an easy sacrifice as it is easier to change the manager than the whole squad, isn't it?
At the end of the day Ange may not be the main problem but there's zero doubt that he ought to be doing better than he is with our squad, even with the injuries which he may/may not share some of the blame in having caused.
He's a coach who likes playing suicidal attacking football...except we do that whilst looking somehow quite toothless in attack.
We need wholesale change at the club, but right now we need to start with staving off relegation and that starts with Ange gone imo
 
Kaz Hirai said:
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This man's better qualified the Ange.
 
_mehstg said:
He's still here for 2 reasons with the same connotation.
1. Levy won't want to pay the severance package for Ange and his coaches
2. Levy doest want to pay the compensation to a club to pinch their manager.

For context it cost 21.4m to replace ten Hag with Amorin. As a result ticket prices are increasing. It's the fans who pay for the fucking stupid decisions clubs make.
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The cost in keeping the bloke far outweighs the cost in not at this point.
 
It's clear that he wants to keep his usual high block + just-run-at-the-opposition-damnit pressing intact despite everything, yet the situation we're in necessitates the almost total opposite. A much more measured, back to basics approach that relies on compactness and is willing to grind out results by any means necessary is the order of the day. What we're witnessing at the moment is the downfall of a one trick pony.

Some players are still trying to press in the manner envisioned by Ange, but most can't do it consistently due to -I guess- exhaustion. Result is a team that is even more open, and even easier to play through, than it usually is. Add the fact that goals have dried up, and it's now impossible to outscore anybody in the usual Ange fashion. Since his entire gimmick is built upon trying to outscore, any other consideration be damned, he has fallen to pieces.

Injury crisis only acted as a catalyst to this collapse, it is far from telling the whole story. Even under the best circumstances, his one dimensional approach contained this kind of a risk of total collapse. Under him, you're doomed as soon as goals stop coming in the usual abundant fashion (3+ a match) for whatever reason. Now that we're not scoring more than one in most matches, we can't get any results. Simple as that.
 
candrews said:
And we get a new manager bounce... Potentially? Maybe? And then after the downward spiral continues? Back Ange now and put pressure on the real issue at this club or you're forever gonna continue to give off the cuck vibes you do now.
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Why back Ange now? Do you get any hope that he'll turn this around by watching us play, any at all? He's clueless, with this squad a reasonable position in the table would be about 7th-8th. Not 15th. Thats why we need to sack, not back Ange now. If we had seen any progress at all in the 20 months Ange has been here, I might have supported that stance. But all I see is a team that has regressed, gradually gone worse the longer Ange has stayed.
 
Crockett said:
3 cups technically…it’s all on the Europa though really. Villa away is tough and we aren’t holding on at Anfield without a miracle.
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Yup. Will be interesting to see the atmosphere on Thursday. Think that’ll affect the result too. I do dislike early Sunday kickoffs. Today felt a bit like a Boxing Day fixture in terms of the crowd being behind the team. The football certainly didn’t help that. The loudest chants were the levy out ones. We don’t feel like a twelfth man at the moment and that’s something the other clubs struggling do seem to have more.
 
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