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Management Ange Postecoglou

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To be fair, our previous managers had a rather special goal machine that got them out of many a lousy situation. It would be disingenuous to suggest Ange wouldn't be in a better position if he had Kane. That man papered over chronic under investment in the playing side for far too many years. If Levy had realise how much so he would have asked for double.
Possiby but Ange has proved he's defensively and tactically inept and too bloody stubborn for his own good.
 
To be fair, our previous managers had a rather special goal machine that got them out of many a lousy situation. It would be disingenuous to suggest Ange wouldn't be in a better position if he had Kane. That man papered over chronic under investment in the playing side for far too many years. If Levy had realise how much so he would have asked for double.
It's an important distinction to make ......many a manager has thrived because of Kane ....and Bale before him made a few managers look a lot better than they were.
 
Despite the common complaint that it is Romero and VdV's absences that broke the camel's back, it's actually the significant drop in goals, compared to how things usually are under Ange, that primarily caused this collapse. After that Soton win we scored;

-1 against Liverpool, from a giveaway in a very dangerous area, until the match was entirely out of reach (1-5, 72nd minute)
-Nil against Forest
-2 against Wolves, even though we didn't create much in that match either
-1 against Newcastle
-1 against Woolwich
-Nil against Everton until, again, the match was entirely out of reach (3-0, 77th minute)
-1 today

We weren't keeping clean sheets even with Romero and VdV, so unless you are willing to argue that these two would have increased our attacking output significantly in terms of chance creation and goals scored, then I don't think they would have been of much help.

Goals have dried up, it seems that simple to me. Whether that's a blip on the radar, or sign of an irreversible trend that'll continue as long as Ange stays, is up for debate. But either way, don't expect a sudden turnaround when the aforementioned two return.
 
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That's fine, and if that's what's needed so be it.

But the reality is there will always be an under pressure manager to be a scapegoat when things aren't going well. That will ALWAYS be a potential focus and relief valve.

So please spare some patience for those of us more focused on the larger picture of one of the richest clubs on the planet, wringing more money out of its supporters than anyone else, while having no intent to ever compete for anything.

You can always make the dugout the story if you want to, which means always ignoring the real story.
Sorry....I can only see what is going on, on the pitch...and post my humble opinion...You clearly have other issues which I am assuming lies in an area you do not have any influence over.... I can only offer this...... get ELON MUSK to buy the club and no one will ever have to complain that Spurs are short changing the Team.
 
I’m ok with it. It’s a results business and he hasn’t got them yet. But what happens if he wins a couple of trophies, and steadies the ship somewhat to finish say top 8 in the league?

It would be fun though!

The first thing people do is flock on here to boast about how they were right all along and to blame their fellow fans for us being shit.

Fucking personality vacuums and this is the way they get their jollies. It’s really quite sad.

Just don’t understand why there’s a need to throw fellow fans under the bus at times like this. Place should be somewhere you can go to get a metaphorical arm round the shoulder from your brethren. But alas, no.
Postecoglou will prove to be a two edged sword for Levy. With his initial success he took pressure off Levy. Fans had a big personality as manager who believed in attacking football. So far, so good. But now that the system isn't working, fans who have fallen for Postecoglou can't accept that his brand of football is unsound. So, they are assuming Levy is to blame for not supporting him. So, Levy at the same time can't keep him on as manager and can't fire him. He's Schroedinger's manager.
 
Despite the common complaint that it is Romero and VdV's absences that broke the camel's back, it's actually the significant drop in goals, compared to how things usually are under Ange, that primarily caused this collapse. After that Soton win we scored;

-1 against Liverpool, from a giveaway in a very dangerous area, until the match was entirely out of reach (1-5, 72nd minute).
-Nil against Forest
-2 against Wolves, even though we didn't create much in that match either
-1 against Newcastle
-1 against Woolwich
-Nil against Everton until, again, the match was entirely out of reach (3-0, 77th minute)
-1 today

We weren't keeping clean sheets even with Romero and VdV, so unless you are willing to argue that these two would have increased our attacking output significantly in terms of chance creation and goals scored, then I don't think they would have been of much help.

Goals have dried up, it seems that simple to me. Whether that's a blip on the radar, or sign of an irreversible trend that'll continue as long as Ange stays, is up for debate. But either way, don't expect a sudden turnaround when the aforementioned two return.
The thing about the way we play though requires ball playing centre backs , I get Romero made mistakes but he was so important for building from the back.
Don’t get me wrong it’s bigger than missing them 2 but for Anges system to work Romero and VDV are key.
 
Don't think levy has any intention of sacking him even still.

Gonna be a rough couple weeks with Brentford, Liverpool and villa next after elfsborg. 3 defeats unless there's so monstrous transfer activity
 
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