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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Matt1882 said:
Yeah I've been the one the point that out numerous times.

But defending as a team was, is and will continue to be a bigger problem.
It isn't about getting the two CBs back either. This is a total lack of practice in training. We look in immediate threat every single time we lose possession, no matter where on the pitch that happens.
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Doing anything as a team would be a good start.

Ange's tactics does the opposite of what every other professional Manager does and that is to try and create overloads. The only part of the pitch he tries to overload is the midfield which is already the busiest part of the pitch. The fact is he quite often puts our players in positions where the opposition out number our players. Then the fact that we have zero touchline wingers.

Nothing Ange does makes sense and the basics of his tactics are a bastardised version of Bielsa's press with none of his complexity or his attention to detail.
 
Murphy said:
Newcastle had to contend with masses of injuries last year and Europe. They weren’t this bad.

It’s all excuses.
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Yeah, Newcastle had one bad spell of 7 or 8 games when they lost most but otherwise they were ok. They finished 7th with 60 pts. We'll be lucky to get 40. Its another bullshit narrative to cover for managerial incompetence. Still, at least its moved on from..'but Arteta' now.
 
spursfan76 said:
Just look at the more successful teams in the league. None of them play anything similar to Angeball.
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They're coached.
This guy is nothing but a philosophy. He doesn't train players to play the way he thinks we should play.
We look shockingly un-coached. I've never seen a team look so disorganised without the ball.
We some how manage to get outnumbered at both ends of the pitch. We take too long to work the ball in to the final 3rd, and push every player into the oppo half in the process. And then we lose the ball and have 3 Vs 2 counters. Constantly.
It's fucking pathetic football. It's not entertaining. It's not "attacking" It's just naive and can only end badly.
 
Tomo said:
To be honest we probably need to start bombing out of the cups. Our squad isn’t build for 4 competitions and certainly not playing high intensity and with an injury crisis. One game a week would be a massive help at this stage.
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I honestly am not sure it matters with this idiot in charge. The tactics are so bad and so easy to play against that every manager can see through them. The only way we fix this season now at all is to sack him asap but it looks like they won’t. Levy is the king of bad footballing decisions, this could be his worst yet.
 
I still think the best summing up of it all is that yesterday, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, a man who, let’s face it, is very much still an amateur manager gaining experience in that side of the game, actually told an interviewer BEFORE the game exactly what his tactics are.

He told Ange before players were on the pitch how he was going to beat him. I bet he couldn’t believe his luck when they got their goals in the first ten mins of the second half, he’d thought he’d have to wait till 70-80mins.

This follows, was it Declan Rice who in a post match interview said they weren’t bothered as they knew exactly how we were going to play, how to beat us and that if things didn’t go our way we wouldn’t stop doing the same things.

Other teams are literally telling our manager how they are going to beat him, and he doesn’t have anything about him to know how to stop it.

What on earth are we doing here.
 
Who said:
What's 'cool' about it? It's factual. He won something in Brisbane (huzzah) and in Japan (huzzah).. and Celtic like every manager there in the last decade or more has.. excepting Gerrard for one season at Rangers.
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Winning stuff in those leagues is no more impressive than league 2.
Fact.

Fans would have been frothing at the fucking mouth if we hired Dave, who has spent 28 fucking years muddling around league 2, the conference and won a few paint trophies.
But they seemed enamored with Ange from Celtic. Cetlic. A club in one of the worst leagues in the world of football. Celtic. A team who completely and utterly own that league.
And fans thought this would work.

If he was 40 and had worked his way from Aus to Japan to Scotland, there might have been hope. But the fact he'd been around for fucking DECADES and nobody took a chance until Celtic should have told you everything you needed to know.
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
He's had every possible opportunity to turn it around and he's proved he is fucking useless. The only thing he excels at is trying to front out fans.

If they honestly thought he was their guy they'd have backed him more in the summer and this window.
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he's being backed about as well as any Tottenham manager. In fact in the height of the Ange out and Ange In War. The outers would often point to Ange having a huge pound spend compared to Conte, Nuno, and Jose
 
Os22 said:
I still think the best summing up of it all is that yesterday, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, a man who, let’s face it, is very much still an amateur manager gaining experience in that side of the game, actually told an interviewer BEFORE the game exactly what his tactics are.

He told Ange before players were on the pitch how he was going to beat him. I bet he couldn’t believe his luck when they got their goals in the first ten mins of the second half, he’d thought he’d have to wait till 70-80mins.

This follows, was it Declan Rice who in a post match interview said they weren’t bothered as they knew exactly how we were going to play, how to beat us and that if things didn’t go our way we wouldn’t stop doing the same things.

Other teams are literally telling our manager how they are going to beat him, and he doesn’t have anything about him to know how to stop it.

What on earth are we doing here.
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Wow! If you have a link to Ruud's interview that'd be interesting.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Udogie is the starting LB, Spence is the second back up RB. How many minutes was he expected to get?

You know he was out of the club last season and the season before under Conte?

Give it a rest mate, you are making a tit of yourself.

I can give Ange stick for the decision not to take VDV off earlier vs Chelsea. I can give him stick for starting Sarr instead of Reguillon vs Leicester. I can give him stick for reacting to fans when he should suck it up..,

But Spence? That’s irrational nonsense you’ve talked yourself into and now got married to. Ange is the first manager since Steve Cooper at Forest to get Spence into a meaningful role. They clearly have an understanding that is enabling him to show who he can be as a player. It’s one of Ange’s very few success stories so far this season.
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Hahahahha, no I am not.
You look a complete imbecile while calling out facts and then when faced with facts just mumble some subjective garbage.
Constantly, this is not the first instance. But I get it - you want to defend situation that in real world is undefendable cause there is not single factual metric supporting you.

It is A BIG fuckup by Ange. Udogie always should have been roatated and Spence 100% deserved more playing time based on ManU and Coventry perfomances. Even at this point now, with U-Dog being off for a while he still has played 1816 minutes and came up with zero goals and 1 assist. Spence has 846 minutes, 1 goal and 2 assists. Spence does take players on and actually sprints on the wing instead of overcrowding middle areas.

Udogie injury was absolutely logical outcome considering everything. But hey - I get it. Ange has done all perfectly well and cannot do wrong because... some reasons. Whatever they are. Keep going.
 
I've never been as sure of something in my life

This club is going to be relegated .

If this doesn't set off some proper protests against our charlatan owners then nothing will

Please let relegation be the catalyst for a proper fan revolt and the first step to forcing these wankers to sell up and fuck off out of our great club
 
Matt1882 said:
Winning stuff in those leagues is no more impressive than league 2.
Fact.

Fans would have been frothing at the fucking mouth if we hired Dave, who has spent 28 fucking years muddling around league 2, the conference and won a few paint trophies.
But they seemed enamored with Ange from Celtic. Cetlic. A club in one of the worst leagues in the world of football. Celtic. A team who completely and utterly own that league.
And fans thought this would work.

If he was 40 and had worked his way from Aus to Japan to Scotland, there might have been hope. But the fact he'd been around for fucking DECADES and nobody took a chance until Celtic should have told you everything you needed to know.
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You’re backing him then
 
TheSpurEst said:
Hahahahha, no I am not.
You look a complete imbecile while calling out facts and then when faced with facts just mumble some subjective garbage.
Constantly, this is not the first instance. But I get it - you want to defend situation that in real world is undefendable cause there is not single factual metric supporting you.

It is A BIG fuckup by Ange. Udogie always should have been roatated and Spence 100% deserved more playing time based on ManU and Coventry perfomances. Even at this point now, with U-Dog being off for a while he still has played 1816 minutes and came up with zero goals and 1 assist. Spence has 846 minutes, 1 goal and 2 assists. Spence does take players on and actually sprints on the wing instead of overcrowding middle areas.

Udogie injury was absolutely logical outcome considering everything. But hey - I get it. Ange has done all perfectly well and cannot do wrong because... some reasons. Whatever they are. Keep going.
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Udogie got injured when he played a game he was due to rest after Spence’s second yellow against Forest meant he was suspended,

More utter bollox from you.

Give it up mate, it’s just getting worse on every post.
 
Matt1882 said:
Winning stuff in those leagues is no more impressive than league 2.
Fact.

Fans would have been frothing at the fucking mouth if we hired Dave, who has spent 28 fucking years muddling around league 2, the conference and won a few paint trophies.
But they seemed enamored with Ange from Celtic. Cetlic. A club in one of the worst leagues in the world of football. Celtic. A team who completely and utterly own that league.
And fans thought this would work.

If he was 40 and had worked his way from Aus to Japan to Scotland, there might have been hope. But the fact he'd been around for fucking DECADES and nobody took a chance until Celtic should have told you everything you needed to know.
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yes, that's what I was saying (sort of) to the other chappie. Don't begrudge people working hard and being rewarded but why did our club have to choose him? why oh why 😢Personally couldn't believe it myself. Look at the coaching staff. It is going to be some rebuild.
 
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