I think he’s taken a blow or several from a certain Antipodean!
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That's the spirit.
I do note we have beaten Man U home and away this season scoring 7 goals in the process.
People that follow him are typically also 'fanalysts', so no purple and gold types. It's like doing a general election poll in Surrey. I bet if the Last Word on Spurs podcast did a poll it would be the other way around.
In one aspect, I'm starting to feel a little bad for Ange.
If Levy had sacked him when he should have been sacked, after Ipswich, I would have thought "well there goes a man who flew too close to the sun. A victim of the Peter Principle, promoted beyond his capabilities, but he had an idea and he sure gave it a go."
By keeping him this long and letting him utterly destroy our season, our squad, and create financial repercussions that we will be dealing with for years after he is gone, any vestiges of good will are gone. He's the worst manager we have had in the past quarter century plus, and we'll be dealing with the fallout of this disaster for years.
He doesn't deserve the Judas treatment, and I don't blame him for not quitting, I wouldn't either, but I can't think of anyone other than Judas associated with the club in the past 25 years I'd be less likely to give a hand shake.
If Levy had sacked him when he should have been sacked, after Ipswich, I would have thought "well there goes a man who flew too close to the sun. A victim of the Peter Principle, promoted beyond his capabilities, but he had an idea and he sure gave it a go."
By keeping him this long and letting him utterly destroy our season, our squad, and create financial repercussions that we will be dealing with for years after he is gone, any vestiges of good will are gone. He's the worst manager we have had in the past quarter century plus, and we'll be dealing with the fallout of this disaster for years.
He doesn't deserve the Judas treatment, and I don't blame him for not quitting, I wouldn't either, but I can't think of anyone other than Judas associated with the club in the past 25 years I'd be less likely to give a hand shake.
Agree with all that apart from feeling bad for him.
If he had a bit more class then yes but this bollocks with him trying to stare down fans and his general arrogance and clear annoyance at being questioned on anything then i think he deserves the ire and contempt.
Agreed. I'd add that him staying isn't doing him any favours either as each game just shines more light on the numerous flaws in his approach.
He doesn't deserve hate but he doesn't deserve support either.
How you work that one out?
The minutes and experience that Gray and Bergvall have got ahead of schedule will benefit us for years. Spence just gave us a home grown option for RB, LB and CB for years, from nowhere, the kid was out of the club.
Solanke is one of the best forwards we have ever signed under Levy. Odobert will probably end up coming good, probably by the end of the season. Mikey Moore has minutes under his belt.
Sure, its a but rough right now but the foundations put underneath this squad were forged in the toughest of times and if anything will serve us incredibly for years.
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If they let Ange go quite a bit after the should of been released, the fans will by then of developed a serious amount of frustatrion and loathing for the manager, and so all the anger will mostly be channeled at him instead. The fans will be relieved that Levy had finally got rid, so relief (rather than anger) will become the most dominant emotion amongst the fan base.
You've raised an interesting and valid point and I can see now exactly why Levy would hold onto this guy until fans are frothing at the bit. If you let him go at the right time, then as you say, there will relief but a somewhat friendly departure between the two parties. But the higher ups will get it in the neck and then some for hiring a manager way out of his depth.
If they let Ange go quite a bit after the should of been released, the fans will by then of developed a serious amount of frustatrion and loathing for the manager, and so all the anger will mostly be channeled at him instead. The fans will be relieved that Levy had finally got rid, so relief (rather than anger) will become the most dominant emotion amongst the fan base.
Werner is awful. Can't control a pass, can't finish to save his life. Doesn't really press that much and when he does, he's soft.
His one skill is clipping it to the byline and crossing it low. Good for Ange's system but saying he's our best winger after Moore is mental.
I would keep Ange now but if a good manager is poachable for next year - I’d do it. Iraola a dream.
However if we win a cup and the form recovers once injuries are back, then I’m as fickle as the next fan. Signed for a project, keep backing him and the team.
However if we win a cup and the form recovers once injuries are back, then I’m as fickle as the next fan. Signed for a project, keep backing him and the team.
You're kidding, right???
That's not what I said
It’s just Shady and his 40 multis
If we win a cup and get 20 points from the last 10 games, I’d be far from alone in giving him a pass.
But otherwise of course I want us to get a better manager
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He is a dinosaur.
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I don't think Levy makes a single decision with concern of what supporters think. I think we wish he would, so many project that onto him and think his decisions are Machiavellian schemes to keep supporters onside and paying for tickets. The man isn't vain like Sugar, he doesn't give a fuck what supporters think.
I think he's held onto Ange so long largely because Nuno has Forest humming and he probably regrets taking Conte's bait and dismissing Nuno so quickly, and believes that was a mistake. I think he figured that, rather than let Ange go so quickly he'd give him some time to prove he could turn it around. We got stuck in this good-bad-good-bad-bad-good-bad results cycle and Levy couldn't make his mind up to take action. Then the clock struck January and January is just a terrible time to sack a manager, particularly if you need players.
Further, now that we've got a lead in the LC Semifinal he's being haunted by the 2nd ghost of sackings past - sacking Mourinho before the LC final.
So I don't think it's a Machiavellian scheme to redirect supporters' anger, it's just the same incompetent lack of conviction and timing we've seen from him in the past. These are the decisions he struggles with, the tasks that he does not handle well. He's indecisive in general, and when he's decisive about football matters he's usually been wrong. Which is a negative feedback loop and just makes him more indecisive.
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