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Transfers January Transfer Thread 24/25

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When you buy young players you are backing the club. When you buy established players for now you are backing the current coach.

Sounds good but you just made that up.

Ange said HE wants young players.

Poch liked young players.

Young players are hungry and malleable.


When they arrived Ange said Gray & Berg were players for now and people here broadly sneered....... Yet......
 
Sounds good but you just made that up.

Ange said HE wants young players.

Poch liked young players.

Young players are hungry and malleable.


When they arrived Ange said Gray & Berg were players for now and people here broadly sneered....... Yet......

I'm not saying Ange doesn't want to work with the young players. He said himself he was part of the recruitment model to bring them in. As we see with Tel and the way Gray and Bergvall look up to him, he's clearly integral to the whole deal.

But if he leaves the club before they are developed into their potential then it will the manager who gets the fruits of that labour who is backed by those players. That's why I'm saying you back the team with young players and you back the team with a coach who will develop them with playing time.
 
They've certainly been playing funny buggers with other clubs to all get round PSR but that wage bill... That's gonna sting at some point.

It already has by the looks of it....

Sure it was a big offer; but a club in their position should be able to afford to refuse for a player of his ilk (see Brighton/Mitoma)....... For a young, productive striker who's best years are ahead that wasn't mega bucks anyway.

Hard not to conclude that sale is to help sustain that mad wage bill.....

Selling assets to pay expenses (wages) signifies a troubled business.
 
Palmer was not "elite" when Chelski bought him, though - but he very soon became one. If he was "elite" at the time of Man City sold him he'd cost almost the double (it is rumoured that Chelski have received an offer of £150m: European giants 'tipped to make £150m bid' for Cole Palmer as Chelsea star drops masterclass vs Tottenham)
But, despite of me pushing for Spurs to buy him while he was at Man City, he was not a ready made "elite" player.
Ok maybe I phrased it badly . If they are very very good prospects you have to pay up . If they let you go or sell you cheaply they do not see you as that level . I hope I am wrong but I doubt Lankshear makes it at a top half prem club possibly not even any prem club .
 
It already has by the looks of it....

Sure it was a big offer; but a club in their position should be able to afford to refuse for a player of his ilk (see Brighton/Mitoma)....... For a young, productive striker who's best years are ahead that wasn't mega bucks anyway.

Hard not to conclude that sale is to help sustain that mad wage bill.....

Selling assets to pay expenses (wages) signifies a troubled business.
He is also a known knob, it's why they were considering the West Ham offer. If the Saudi money has him interested I wouldn't want him around the club, could easily become toxic.
 
Marmoush, 25 years old, established top class player from a top league, 80m. It happens.

"Ellite" though? ....I think that's a stretch.

Marmoush is a player who's finally scored his big move and now has to prove he belongs at the top table.

That's not a Mbappe, Vinicius, Lewandowski, Krose, etc. etc. etc.



I asked you the very same question the other day and you had no answer............ Telling that you needed to tenuously stretch to a player from the current window who doesn't really fit the description.
 
He is also a known knob, it's why they were considering the West Ham offer. If the Saudi money has him interested I wouldn't want him around the club, could easily become toxic.

Doesn't reflect well on him. True.

.......But they didn't appear to have any intent to spend that 70 to replace him.

Instead they got Rashford on loan who says he doesn't want to play ST..... A player with his own dodgy attitude.

...And another attacking midfielder in Assensio.


All the while Watkins looks injured.
 
He was an up and coming player; not a fully formed, mid 20s proven "elite" player.
It’s not what I meant , I meant if the selling club sees them as that potentially they demand a big fee. Poorly worded by me I admit . My point is players released or sold cheaply at 18 are rarely making the step up in my view . Obviously there are exceptions, we could I think easily have sold Kane cheaply at 18 , we are all very glad we didn’t
 
Doesn't reflect well on him. True.

.......But they didn't appear to have any intent to spend that 70 to replace him.

Instead they got Rashford on loan who says he doesn't want to play ST..... A player with his own dodgy attitude.

...And another attacking midfielder in Assensio.


All the while Watkins looks injured.
It's January. Better to wait until the summer of you can over spending big to replace what is in effect a bench player.
 
IF Tel works out then all we need up front in the summer is Mbeumo

Then possibly a CB if Romero leaves (we should cash in if he doesn’t want to be on the bus)

And a highly rated prospect LB

Ideally also an elite CDM, though we won’t get that, so put Gray there as starter next season
 
"Ellite" though? ....I think that's a stretch.

Marmoush is a player who's finally scored his big move and now has to prove he belongs at the top table.

That's not a Mbappe, Vinicius, Lewandowski, Krose, etc. etc. etc.



I asked you the very same question the other day and you had no answer............ Telling that you needed to tenuously stretch to a player from the current window who doesn't really fit the description.

If you are talking about the truly elite players, you don't see many transfers involving them but mainly because there aren't many of them. This winter one of them moved and that was Kvaratshkelia. Osimhen will move permanently pretty soon as well.

You gave Rice as an example of maybe being an elite mid 20's player who moved but he was at West Ham when he moved. What's the difference with Marmoush that you are now denying fits the same criteria?
 
If you are talking about the truly elite players, you don't see many transfers involving them but mainly because there aren't many of them.

Well yes; that was the bar set by the person who was complaining.

Marmoush isn't elite with or whithout a capital letter.

This winter one of them moved and that was Kvaratshkelia.

......And didn't come to the prem thus furthering the case.

You gave Rice as an example

Not me guv.

........BUT even though I don't consider him elite; he's was prem proven (and HG) at that point so as to 'justify' a huge price. Ditto Grealish. They were both 60m players with a LOT of tax....... RM (eg) are NEVER paying that money for either of those two.


The only one I'd throw in from recent history was Haaland... And there's a whole load of caveats attached to how he ended up at City.

Historically - perhaps curiously - the kind of players in question rarely come here.... And a hell of a lot of them leave for the continent should they blossom into "elite" status here.



In all honest; I think the weather plays a big part.
 
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