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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
If we lose to Villa I can’t support him anymore.

But I’d want them to get someone who inspires me to think the goal is still winning things and becoming a truly elite club.

Iraola, Frank, Silva… all the popular names are people just about treading water between 8th and 4th.
Why is Villa the last straw for you? It would be a bit weird to wait all this time for him to get players back and then sack him just before he does no?
 
Vicario and VdV did better than I expected. So did the Maddison Son combo and the defensive mid. Nevertheless, I don't believe that our points per game would increase significantly if they were all fit. We struggled second half of last season with everybody available.
Yes because we are poorly coached. At the moment the field is too big. Our press is a disorganised disaster which is always press which is knackering, On top of that our defensive organisation is terrible. Chris Davies is definitely a big loss. Then the always play it out of the back disaster which allows us to lose the ball because other teams know we are going to do it.,
 
I see lots of people putting useless yardsticks in this thread.

The only thing that matters is surviving the league and winning Europa league.

That’s the benchmark.

Anything else is pointless.
 
I see lots of people putting useless yardsticks in this thread.

The only thing that matters is surviving the league and winning Europa league.

That’s the benchmark.

Anything else is pointless.
Winning the FA Cup is pointless? No it isn’t

Going on a league run that fans actually enjoy watching is pointless ? No it isnt. Would you not be ENTERTAINED?

Our best chance of exiting the Europa is with Ange
 
I'm Ange out. But I don't dislike him like how I dislike a certain posters here who have more joy in claiming some sorts of victories over fellow fans for being early birds in calling Ange out. Much of the bickering was actually forcing people to admit they have been wrong, and how stupid to believe in Ange.

Ridiculous. And childish.
 
I'm Ange out. But I don't dislike him like how I dislike a certain posters here who have more joy in claiming some sorts of victories over fellow fans for being early birds in calling Ange out. Much of the bickering was actually forcing people to admit they have been wrong, and how stupid to believe in Ange.

Ridiculous. And childish.

Yep,

Major reason why i don't feed the mob.

It's been a pile on and they will get their wish, but imagine spending so much time and effort to tell fellow posters that they are blind, dumb, and so forth. They mob rules mate.

I have to hand it to Richard Arlison Richard Arlison , he and I differ on many topics but he cops it left, right and centre. The majority may be right, but that doesn't excuse the vitriol he and others cop.

2 or 3 posters here are absolute relentless cunts with the pile on. He is more Spurs that those maggots and he has a spine .
 
Vicario and VdV did better than I expected. So did the Maddison Son combo and the defensive mid. Nevertheless, I don't believe that our points per game would increase significantly if they were all fit. We struggled second half of last season with everybody available.

Well they decreased significantly when they all good injured so....
 
Winning the FA Cup is pointless? No it isn’t

Going on a league run that fans actually enjoy watching is pointless ? No it isnt. Would you not be ENTERTAINED?

Our best chance of exiting the Europa is with Ange

Never said it was pointless. I said staying up is vital and to do that you need to win games/go on a bit of a run.

What matters is a big European trophy and Champions League football next season. Period.

The FA Cup is not as important to our rebuild than the Europa League. If you don’t understand why, I can’t help you.
 
Never said it was pointless. I said staying up is vital and to do that you need to win games/go on a bit of a run.

What matters is a big European trophy and Champions League football next season. Period.

The FA Cup is not as important to our rebuild than the Europa League. If you don’t understand why, I can’t help you.
Your statement meant that the FA Cup
didn’t matter.

Call me a stickler , but that’s in effect the Same as pointless surely ??
 
Never said it was pointless. I said staying up is vital and to do that you need to win games/go on a bit of a run.

What matters is a big European trophy and Champions League football next season. Period.

The FA Cup is not as important to our rebuild than the Europa League. If you don’t understand why, I can’t help you.
But I didn’t say or imply it was AS important did I?

Reread your posts and mine

More carefully
 
Yep,

Major reason why i don't feed the mob.

It's been a pile on and they will get their wish, but imagine spending so much time and effort to tell fellow posters that they are blind, dumb, and so forth. They mob rules mate.

I have to hand it to Richard Arlison Richard Arlison , he and I differ on many topics but he cops it left, right and centre. The majority may be right, but that doesn't excuse the vitriol he and others cop.

2 or 3 posters here are absolute relentless cunts with the pile on. He is more Spurs that those maggots and he has a spine .
If you find the laggards on here impressive you should learn about Hiroo Onoda, the WWII Japanese lieutenant who refused to surrender until 1974. Real spine on him.
 
Ange may be out of his depth but you can't blame him for this loss. Look at the team he put out, mostly kids , novices and 3rd string talent. Spurs fans have this things where they think a Spurs player puts a Spurs jersey they suddenly become this elite talent and demand to win every game.

The reality is that of the side that Ange fielded, only Kulusevski and Son are what you could consider elite Premier League talent. So you have two elite talents playing against 11 elite talents, and a further 7 or 8 elite talents on the bench. The difference in class is enormous and Spurs were never ever ever ever going to win this game with the players they had available. They were not even a chance. Obviously we all hoped for a miracle but from about the 5th minute it was obvious the difference in class was too enormous to sustain a 1 goal lead over 90 minutes at Anfield.

People need to get to grips with reality. Injuries have totally fucked Spurs right now, and until they get their elite Premier League talent back (VDV, Vicario, Romero, Maddison, Solanke) consistency, high ladder position and trophies is a bit too much for ask for.
May be some players missing but that midfield is starting 11 regulars since Ange came. Add in son and kulu you could throw I. Richi who was starting 11 last season who cost £60M. Only young kid that started was gray.
 
Which injured players are coming into replace Bissouma, Bentancur and Sarr who consistently aren’t good enough for the top half level of the Prem in this Ange system (whatever the fuck that is)

Are you suggesting that Wilson, Johnson and Werner are going to make any difference? Or that we’re actually missing Dragusin who is an appalling lump of a player. Have you watched Udogie since his injury? he’s toilet.

in reality, we’re only missing Romero, VDV, Solanke, Vicario and probably Maddison (who the manager doesn’t rate/get on with) .
Even then cuti has been shite costing us more goals than anyone else. Spence > destiny.
 
You can make excuses about injuries and the quality of Liverpool but we still should have seen real belief and intensity last night. We sort of did when the game was 0-0 but as soon as Gakpo scored we lamely accepted our fate and gave up. That’s pathetic and that’s on Ange.

You’ve also once again got to question his technical decisions.

1. Poor squad management meaning he felt obliged to start Bergvall and Porro on the bench as they were tired.

2. Took far too long to get the subs on when the game was still in the balance.

3. Absolutely demented idea of moving Spence to RW and Archie to LB when chasing the game.

That’s before we even look at what we did with the ball. We need to stop this nonsense now and bring in an interim manager with experience at the top level. Ange is not the guy. We all know Levy is the main issue at the club but Ange is not divorced from that. Levy made a mistake hiring him and the mistake needs to be corrected.
Think the pathway is levy —> Munn —> Ange
 
We joked about Redknapps tactics back in the day being 'just run abaat a bit' but this current Ange setup is the most 'just run about' system I've ever seen. Players ball chasing going from position to position, no structure or cohesion. It's schoolboy.
Tbh they didn’t even run around. All they did was get into a low block zonal system think that is their job done. However no one actually got close to press, tackle or prevent a pass.
 
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