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Management Ange Postecoglou
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Nope. Bring back da Pochmeister.
Just wait 15 years. Coach Sandy will being us glory!
It's both. I don't know why it's always a choice for football fans.
Cup or top 4? BOTH
Is it Levy's fault or the coaches? BOTH
Margot Robbie or Charlize Theron - BOTH!
Nothing wrong with your logic it's sound. The BUT is Richarlison he seems to break merely crossing a ball now...
You should see it on BlueSky they are full chest Angeballs back !!!!@They are so stupid it's painful.
Absolutely mental.
We beat a team who are 20 points behind Ajax. A side who lost 6-2 on aggregate to Frankfurt. That’s how far off AZ are from being a top level European team. Maybe four or five levels behind that.
Some nice goals and some competency displayed but so far off being the level we expect still.
Richarlison is done. He is and should go back to Everton.
What are you on about? I'm going to assume you were pissed when you typed that out, as you aussies usually are on a Friday night.
I said there are no circumstances where Ange should be here next season, but I didn't outline reasons why he should stay. I simply said that if someone offered me a Europa League trophy, and Ange then stayed until October and then sacked. i'd take it. But that is the absolute worst case scenario. I'd rather he was sacked today and we had someone else in charge for Frankfurt.
I want Ange gone full stop. I was just outlining that the club could well end up giving him next season if we won the Europa. They shouldn't, but they could. Those aren't reasons, they are just possibilties.
It's all bollocks anyway though because we aren't winning anything under this clown.
It’s Ten Hag syndrome!
United clearly should have binned ETH at the season end, and I dread us doing something similar should we somehow miraculously win the Europa final!
If we win the Europa... big if I know... but it would be our greatest achievement since 1991. Let that sink in... nearly 35 years... all those managers... and it's this clown who brings us a semblance of glory... I guarantee there will be loads on here saying it's only the Europa... blah blah... it a recognised European trophy... if it means Ange getting Aug/Sep and getting sacked with us in 15th then I think I'd take it. We've been so starved of silverware I'd do that deal with the devil tomorrow.
It would be a great achievement no question, but whether we win or not, we can't start next season with him in charge.
It’s been a while since, I have seen such naive sub standard set up, really laughable at how often teams get through.
It's not suited to a top league, let him go back to something more suited to his abilities.
I hear what you're saying skywalker but would you do that deal. Guaranteed Europa League, a proper trophy and a place in next seasons Champions League... but Ange starts next season in charge.
Europa league much bigger than fa cup. 3rd most prestigious trophy to be won. Puts you straight into CL and super cup final as a bonus.
If we somehow won and anyone came out with it's only Europa then they're brain dead and not worth conversing with
I hear you mate as well, i just think that, it will be the same as moyes at West ham, he won a European trophy but, it only delayed the inevitable and I think that would happen here.
It doesn't matter what team he has out, full strength or not, games go the same way frantic and messy.
A better manager gets more out of this team with a better set up, i don't trust him or his procees so I would offload personally.
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Yep. If Levy doesn't learn from Glazers and ETH then we are fucked. They would be moronic to make that same mistake.
Winning the Europa wont remove the questions Ange will need to answer going forward. People are losing sight of why he's here in the first place.
Ange was signed by the club to rebuild the team from basically scratch. in a progressive performance project. With the intention of in a handful of years having a title winning team.
If he wins the Europa it may very well be decided that the project ultimately had a short term success. However Anges part in the project has reached its ceiling.
How is he going to improve on the previous two seasons? How is he going to rectify the problems and improve and fix those issues etc. Maybe it's decided that someone else is better placed for the next stage of this project.
Ultimately supporters should not forget what was started and promised. That was to over time build a trophy winning team.
If the management isn't confident enough in Ange to spend the very large sums that were always going to be needed to make the final stage a success. They need to find someone they will be confident with.
They cannot forever be in a cycle of knock-down and rebuild. And I think that is why Ange will last at least until the end of EL. The management wants an orderly process and not another botched knock down job.
Ange was signed by the club to rebuild the team from basically scratch. in a progressive performance project. With the intention of in a handful of years having a title winning team.
If he wins the Europa it may very well be decided that the project ultimately had a short term success. However Anges part in the project has reached its ceiling.
How is he going to improve on the previous two seasons? How is he going to rectify the problems and improve and fix those issues etc. Maybe it's decided that someone else is better placed for the next stage of this project.
Ultimately supporters should not forget what was started and promised. That was to over time build a trophy winning team.
If the management isn't confident enough in Ange to spend the very large sums that were always going to be needed to make the final stage a success. They need to find someone they will be confident with.
They cannot forever be in a cycle of knock-down and rebuild. And I think that is why Ange will last at least until the end of EL. The management wants an orderly process and not another botched knock down job.
The ownership have no such objective unfortunately .
You really comparing a manager that took us to the CL with Ange?
Ange is levels below Poch as a manager.