This is modern football. Bringing in a manager and telling him to make a complete overhaul of the squad and change the style of play then sack him after the second season. That is what counts as "being patient" nowadays.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Ange has been shit since Chelsea home 2023. Weve given him enough slack imo. We will be in a relegation battle if he stays on next season. Bizarre results under him as well. 6-3 home loss to liverpool was ridiculous. Losing to ipswich and leicester home was a disgrace as well. Everyone knows his tactics. One dimensional.
Juric got 3.36 points per game ?
Some kind of magician, we should snap him up, best manager there has ever been based on that stat
Even with 3.36 points a game we'd still end up missing out on the league.
As much as we like to clank on the coaching staff they seem to be just as beaten into submission by Ange as the players.
It's looking that way isnt it. Mason and Wells aren't going to want to get involved now because they'll be hoping to get new jobs within the next coaching staff.
Got to have a clean sweep of the lot of them. I think Mason gets a bad rep but he has to give it a go somewhere else.
The club under Levy has been masterful at lowering expectations. The promise of Ange was simply a return to a good style of football, there was no promise of success as there isn’t under any manager we hire.
Ange came promising a good style of football and in the first half of the season minus injuries it was pretty good to watch. We had spent years with negative managers like Jose who don’t play football how Spurs fans would want. Combine that with losing by far our best player in Kane it was a tough start for Ange which he dealt with quite well. The end of season was poor and perhaps there were warning signs but as a club we can’t keep changing projects all the time. Sadly as time has worn on he has shown a lack of tactically adaptability and worse an inability to improve players. The club was right to try and support a manager in a way it often doesn’t, it just backed the wrong horse.
My fear is the club will learn the lesson to not back a manager in the future and just sack them quickly like it used to. Remember Ndombele when for the first time under Levy we spent on wages and transfer fees and have not done again and thus have no elite players. We need to back our manager and we need to buy elite players, we just have to be better with our scouting/choices like other clubs.
This season has been a mess but we have some very good young players and we are now used to playing attacking football. When we change Ange we don’t need to throw the baby out with the bath water. Ideally we need a Pochettino style coach, someone who will develop players.
Leicester are shit. How on earth did we lose to them at home. Crazy decision as well by leicester hiring a caretaker manager. Fuck em. They're going down.
Best teams dont pick us off. All teams pick us off
thing I always wonder most, when these journo’s write their articles and talk about us being ‘gung-ho’, ‘non-stop’ and ‘good on the eye’… which games have they actually watched?
The amount of games I’ve seen us play where we look lethargic, bored, and like we couldn’t score a goal if we played all week seems much higher. People keep relating to this stat of us scoring loads as well, 6th highest are we for goals scored? But when you look through the games, a lot of it is against teams like Southampton and West Ham where we’ve got ourselves in the lead and added to a tally, we don’t regularly thump teams 3, or 4 nil like they make out. I think the only main outlier of scoring against quality is the City game.
The amount of games I’ve seen us play where we look lethargic, bored, and like we couldn’t score a goal if we played all week seems much higher. People keep relating to this stat of us scoring loads as well, 6th highest are we for goals scored? But when you look through the games, a lot of it is against teams like Southampton and West Ham where we’ve got ourselves in the lead and added to a tally, we don’t regularly thump teams 3, or 4 nil like they make out. I think the only main outlier of scoring against quality is the City game.
He's still here then?
Typo that I will NOT change due to the hilarity.
I agree with what Ange said last week. At some point we are going to have to stick to a manager and their philosophy, even if there are rough periods where it's looking bleak.
Ange isn't that man, as much as I wanted it to work out, it hasn't and now seems unrepairable. But if you look over our last 5 managers (Poch, Mourinho, Nuno, Conte and Ange) all 5 have different styles. We haven't tried to stick to a style, it's just been trying something new and bailing as soon as it goes wrong.
We're in a tough position where we're well below what our level is, but also need to accept we are a team who is likely to finish between 4th and 7th. We need to get a manager in who can implement their style, who is tactically switched on and will not see us as a favour.
I like Iraola, but we'd have to be patient. He had a very rough run to start with Bournemouth, he'd be eaten alive if that happened here. He's not had to pair up midweek football with Premier League (and that might not be the case next season unless we win Europa). Silva has done well at Fulham, but was a disaster at Everton before that (tbf most managers are). Thomas Frank has done well at Brentford, but again we'd need to be patient and accept it'll take time.
Us as fans need to accept it's going to take time and be patient. We can't keep calling for a managers head as soon as it's gets rough and demand a new start, otherwise we are going nowhere anytime soon.
Ange isn't that man, as much as I wanted it to work out, it hasn't and now seems unrepairable. But if you look over our last 5 managers (Poch, Mourinho, Nuno, Conte and Ange) all 5 have different styles. We haven't tried to stick to a style, it's just been trying something new and bailing as soon as it goes wrong.
We're in a tough position where we're well below what our level is, but also need to accept we are a team who is likely to finish between 4th and 7th. We need to get a manager in who can implement their style, who is tactically switched on and will not see us as a favour.
I like Iraola, but we'd have to be patient. He had a very rough run to start with Bournemouth, he'd be eaten alive if that happened here. He's not had to pair up midweek football with Premier League (and that might not be the case next season unless we win Europa). Silva has done well at Fulham, but was a disaster at Everton before that (tbf most managers are). Thomas Frank has done well at Brentford, but again we'd need to be patient and accept it'll take time.
Us as fans need to accept it's going to take time and be patient. We can't keep calling for a managers head as soon as it's gets rough and demand a new start, otherwise we are going nowhere anytime soon.
Spurs should hire an experienced manager and build a boot room behind him for when he goes.
Robbie Keane, Defoe, Dawson and other Spurs men.
Make the place happy again and keep the conveyor belt going.
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I just thought that this was funny.
I think this is absolutely true, at some point we have to stick and I’m hoping beyond all reasonable hope that the next manager, even if not a ‘sexy’ name or choice is one where you can see decent footballing pedigree, a tactical brain and someone who has delivered results in decent leagues. I’m willing to go through more pain if we can see the idea.
The biggest failing of the current experiment is I can’t see the idea, and it’s been clear for a while that he’s way, WAY out of his depth.