Manager Ange Postecoglou

[Brian Fantana]

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I just thought that this was funny.

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Look at fucking Nuno out of his box!

 

[Brian Fantana]

Yeh we do normally pay well for managers although not coughing up the £15m for Slot and his coaches looks a right own goal now.

It’s funny Ange said he didn’t think there was that much difference between players at the highest level and it appears Levy thinks the same. I think they are both totally wrong on that, Arse may have overpaid for Rice but he fits Arteta like a glove.

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It was another fucking massive red flag when he said that. It was an absolutely ridiculous comment.

 

[White Van Jan]

His Brentford team played some brilliant football when they got promoted.

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top scorers in the division the year they went up and the year before too.

One would think that he'd be able to play several types of football depending on the circs. Less of a hothead than say Silva (who I also like). Maybe a bit more flexible than Iraola. Hurzeler plays good stuff at Brighton but seems a bit samey. Too possession based for the ideal candidate. Glasner at Palace has done well. Hits teams on the break like AFCB and Bford.
I rate Rodgers too. Of course we all loved it when his LFC blew up at the end. Previoulsy he'd done very well at Swansea, played a pressing style before anyone had really heard the term. Also won the cup with LCFC.

They're obvsiouly all way better than Levys current clown. I think the 2 best fits are Frank and Rodgers, but I think all would do well here.

 

[PerthPaul]

The last two or three seasons have hit that expectation hard, but it’s still higher than it was on day one of Levy

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I think a lot of fans choose to ignore this. I still think it's time for him to move on, but we only finished in the top half of the table three times in the 10 years prior to the takeover, and no higher than 7th.
Now we have one of the best stadiums in the world, world class training facilities, and a self sustainable business model.
He is reluctant to invest in the team as heavily as the infrastructure, which is why I think now is the time to move on.
Unfortunately, I don't think when he leaves it will be with the thanks he deserves from the fans. We're certainly in a far better position now than when he took over.

Sometimes you're a victim of your own success though...

 

[PerthPaul]

They're obvsiouly all way better than Levys current clown. I think the 2 best fits are Frank and Rodgers, but I think all would do well hehere.

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I agree that they're all a country mile better than Ange.
I don't really get the argument from some that these names would be out of their depth at Spurs. Glasner, Iraola, Frank and Silva are all performing better than us this season, with percievably worse squads. With our squad we should be sitting between 4th and 6th, and I see no reason why those 4 managers couldn't achieve that level with the better resources at their disposal.

 

[AberdeenYid]

I think a lot of fans choose to ignore this. I still think it's time for him to move on, but we only finished in the top half of the table three times in the 10 years prior to the takeover, and no higher than 7th.
Now we have one of the best stadiums in the world, world class training facilities, and a self sustainable business model.
He is reluctant to invest in the team as heavily as the infrastructure, which is why I think now is the time to move on.
Unfortunately, I don't think when he leaves it will be with the thanks he deserves from the fans. We're certainly in a far better position now than when he took over.

Sometimes you're a victim of your own success though...

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Anyone with half a brain can see this. Just a shame there’s a few on here that can’t. Already evidenced in your post reactions.

Unfortunately we live in a “now” society. Success needs to be now. I want a new iPhone now. I want my food delivered now. I want everything now. It’s shameful, the lack of patience, but it’s where we are.

Yes, we are a different, better, proposition than we were pre ENIC, but they don’t seem capable of the next step. Hope everyone realises that if or when they do sell, success won’t happen now, it’ll still take time.

 

[The Extra Mile(sey)]

Anyone with half a brain can see this. Just a shame there’s a few on here that can’t. Already evidenced in your post reactions.

Unfortunately we live in a “now” society. Success needs to be now. I want a new iPhone now. I want my food delivered now. I want everything now. It’s shameful, the lack of patience, but it’s where we are.

Yes, we are a different, better, proposition than we were pre ENIC, but they don’t seem capable of the next step. Hope everyone realises that if or when they do sell, success won’t happen now, it’ll still take time.

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Lack of patience he says

Shameful he says

25 years

Really impatient

 

[AberdeenYid]

Lack of patience he says

Shameful he says

25 years

Really impatient

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You really been expecting us to challenge for titles for 25 years? You can’t be that dense. Please say it ain’t so.

Did you expect it for the years before ENIC too?

 

[The Extra Mile(sey)]

You really been expecting us to challenge for titles for 25 years? You can’t be that dense. Please say it ain’t so.

Did you expect it for the years before ENIC too?

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Who mentioned titles ?

A cup or two might have been nice though

Guess I am too impatient

Give it another 25 and I can look forward to another league cup if I am a really lucky and good boy that promises to behave himself

 

[PerthPaul]

Anyone with half a brain can see this. Just a shame there’s a few on here that can’t. Already evidenced in your post reactions.

Unfortunately we live in a “now” society. Success needs to be now. I want a new iPhone now. I want my food delivered now. I want everything now. It’s shameful, the lack of patience, but it’s where we are.

Yes, we are a different, better, proposition than we were pre ENIC, but they don’t seem capable of the next step. Hope everyone realises that if or when they do sell, success won’t happen now, it’ll still take time.

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To be honest, I think a percentage of the fans on here would love Spurs to be a rich Arabs play thing. Just a hobby he pumps money into, wins us the league and we can all gloat about how great we are.
I'd hate to win titles that way, realistically though, unless we perform a Leicester type miracle, it won't happen unless we do get massive financial investment.
However, I'd love to have won that CL final, it would have been done the 'right way'. Not through the Chelsea/Man City model of buying your way to trophies.

 

[AberdeenYid]

Who mentioned titles ?

A cup or two might have been nice though

Guess I am too impatient

Give it another 25 and I can look forward to another league cup if I am a really lucky and good boy that promises to behave himself

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Ok then. Cups. At what points in the ENIC reign have your expectations been that we’d win cups?

Maybe a few times? That’s where I am. But I also understand there are and have been a few teams well above us in the pecking order, so any kind of win is unlikely.

 

[AberdeenYid]

To be honest, I think a percentage of the fans on here would love Spurs to be a rich Arabs play thing. Just a hobby he pumps money into, wins us the league and we can all gloat about how great we are.
I'd hate to win titles that way, realistically though, unless we perform a Leicester type miracle, it won't happen unless we do get massive financial investment.
However, I'd love to have won that CL final, it would have been done the 'right way'. Not through the Chelsea/Man City model of buying your way to trophies.

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I’d be fine with that. Only way it’s going to happen. Unless Levy knows something about the fiscal rules of the future, which I very much doubt.

Hats off to him though if he’s gambling on all clubs having to stick to something like a 33% wage ratio and that actually happens.

 

[Matt1882]

I’d suggest the opposite is true. At least it was until the last couple of seasons.

They took over a club that, whilst it had won a few trophies in the previous couple of decades, was not considered even close to being a title challenger. Or even finish in the top few clubs in the league.

By accident or design, expectation went through the roof at various stages. Under Jol for a while. Redknapp had us believing. Poch certainly did. The hiring of proven winners like Conte and Jose had us dreaming of title wins. Expectation was as high as I could ever recall.

The last two or three seasons have hit that expectation hard, but it’s still higher than it was on day one of Levy.

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I said in the ENIC thread that there's more luck to our better overall average league position than any skill from them.

Jol was a lucky appointment. He took us from bottom half dwellers to knocking on the door of the Champions League.
His successor would have taken us down.
His emergency replacement got us INTO the CL.
We then, as usual, think we can do better - AVB ends up not being the answer and sends us spiraling in his 2nd season.
Poch, who wasn't the first choice, is then suddenly blessed with lightning in a bottle with the squad, Mitchell, a generational talent in Kane.
Mourinho barely propped us up
Nono as a seat warmer
Conte managed to pull off a miracle before he too caught the Spursy virus
And now, here we are, having finished generally in the top 6 for 20 seasons, about to have our lowest ever PL finish.

It's been a long road to get back to where we started.

 

[PointToPatrik]

top scorers in the division the year they went up and the year before too.

One would think that he'd be able to play several types of football depending on the circs. Less of a hothead than say Silva (who I also like). Maybe a bit more flexible than Iraola. Hurzeler plays good stuff at Brighton but seems a bit samey. Too possession based for the ideal candidate. Glasner at Palace has done well. Hits teams on the break like AFCB and Bford.
I rate Rodgers too. Of course we all loved it when his LFC blew up at the end. Previoulsy he'd done very well at Swansea, played a pressing style before anyone had really heard the term. Also won the cup with LCFC.

They're obvsiouly all way better than Levys current clown. I think the 2 best fits are Frank and Rodgers, but I think all would do well here.

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Rodgers is also someone that Levy has coveted for a while. He's tried to recruit him twice I think?

And he's a good coach that you just have to prevent from getting a say on transfers. That's usually when his teams collapse.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

It was another fucking massive red flag when he said that. It was an absolutely ridiculous comment.

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No manager we've had none( not Sherwood not Conte not Jose ) have said so many utterly fucking brain dead bollocks as Ange Postecoglou has.

"If I'd made substitutions then these players wouldn't have learned anything "

"I made it hard to be fair, I was testing him'

"I'm happy to concede chances and even goals"

"I wanted them to cheer louder"

"There's little difference between players at this level"

"So when I got here, everyone knows I came in on my own. I didn't bring in my own staff. I don't have my own staff that comes along. In the back of my mind, if an opportunity comes up again and I could find an Australian, it doesn't even have to be an Australian, just somebody who I think the door looks like it's closing on them and I see something in them."

Dear oh dear. How did people get taken in professionals! Ffs

 

[PointToPatrik]

No manager we've had none( not Sherwood not Conte not Jose ) have said so many utterly fucking brain dead bollocks as Ange Postecoglou has.

"If I'd made substitutions then these players wouldn't have learned anything "

"I made it hard to be fair, I was testing him'

"I'm happy to concede chances and even goals"

"I wanted them to cheer louder"

"There's little difference between players at this level"

"So when I got here, everyone knows I came in on my own. I didn't bring in my own staff. I don't have my own staff that comes along. In the back of my mind, if an opportunity comes up again and I could find an Australian, it doesn't even have to be an Australian, just somebody who I think the door looks like it's closing on them and I see something in them."

Dear oh dear. How did people get taken in professionals! Ffs

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Poch's lemon mumbjo jumbo and tangents about teaching cows to cross train tracks make far more sense than some of Ange's deflections.

 

[On the shelf]

I said in the ENIC thread that there's more luck to our better overall average league position than any skill from them.

Jol was a lucky appointment. He took us from bottom half dwellers to knocking on the door of the Champions League.
His successor would have taken us down.
His emergency replacement got us INTO the CL.
We then, as usual, think we can do better - AVB ends up not being the answer and sends us spiraling in his 2nd season.
Poch, who wasn't the first choice, is then suddenly blessed with lightning in a bottle with the squad, Mitchell, a generational talent in Kane.
Mourinho barely propped us up
Nono as a seat warmer
Conte managed to pull off a miracle before he too caught the Spursy virus
And now, here we are, having finished generally in the top 6 for 20 seasons, about to have our lowest ever PL finish.

It's been a long road to get back to where we started.

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Even under Gerry Francis we finished mid table, so the prick at the helm now has taken us to new depths

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

Poch's lemon mumbjo jumbo and tangents about teaching cows to cross train tracks make far more sense than some of Ange's deflections.

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Mate doesn't the one about coaches just sound frightening in hindsight. Look at Sergio Raimondo and Mile Jedinak. So Ange just thought yeah doors closing on these two galahs...better get em a paying gig!!!

 

[PointToPatrik]

Mate doesn't the one about coaches just sound frightening in hindsight. Look at Sergio Raimondo and Mile Jedinak. So Ange just thought yeah doors closing on these two galahs...better get em a paying gig!!!

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The bit about him not having a set coaching team should have been such an obvious red flag in hindsight.

Good coaches have their set staffs.

 

[dudu]

I dunno mate. You found 4 examples since the Ndombele signing in 2019, and I feel like Levy 100% regrets at least 2 of them.

Levy regrets the Richarlison signing and blames Conte for pressuring him into it. That is another prime example where Levy's lesson learned from that is to never let another manager pressure him into a big signing again.

Maddison's wages are 175k a week and I'd say Levy regrets that too, hence why he refused to meet Eze or Gallagher's wage demands. Both were looking for something similar. Another lesson learned?

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I think it is a very very basic way to look at things bro - no way we buy or don't buy players based on levys past regrets.

your post is full of conjecture, hyperbole and dare i say projection.