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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
LeeMcl said:
Reasonable question. Accounting for 5th is difficult. It was an improvement. It was a disappointment.

I might be misremembering, but I don’t think any other club who had been in the position we were in November 2023 had ever before then failed to finish in the Top 4. That’s the disappointment part.

If I may, what do you think has changed across the two seasons ?

For me, it’s that Ange got found out and didn’t change. The players, for their part in this were and are not of good enough quality across both seasons. Had largely come from “inferior” clubs and been purchased at a compromised price.
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On 5th, I just think this group over a season played to their optimum.

I also think players like Hjojberg were underrated (and not adequately replaced), and that our excellent start was not matched by many teams over a similar period at any point of the season,obviously top 4 apart. This season nothing of the sort, and it shows.

We have nothing that scares teams. Nothing. We can't dominate games, we lack experience and we are inexplicably fallible, too much of the time. It's a recipe for paucity, and it has shown.

But the players collectively are much better than 15th, and it's flawed for people to deride what is spent on players by the club based simply on us sitting 15th. That's not analysis as opposed to just looking at the table and extrapolating to suit a narrative.

Postecoglou found out? Nah. It's all fallacy. I am not even sure what that means. He and his coaching team haven't been good enough, and nearly 2 years on, it's that simple. Systems don't get beaten, but players who look poorly coached, repeating mistakes and not motivated in the right way or as needed, do.
 
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Today's hilarious defence of Ange courtesy of a random redditor:

"If we get rid of Ange we can no longer have a no wrong'uns principle in player recruitment."

Apparently if we let Ange go we are going to sign the Anti-Christ to play fullback.
 
Lancelot Link said:
Been following football longer than you’ve been born. Watched Larry Mabbutt for years and still remember Aussie Ordiles and Richard Villas.
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Yeah, but what football?
Anyone that has watched proper football for any period of time can see Ange is a Fraud. But you seem oblivious.

You're either in my time zone or it's late night posting from Aus for you.
 
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Pathfinder said:
It was meant as irony and I agree with you that he did well at Wolves - but he also had led Rio Ave (2012-14) to 6th & 11th and got them to the UEFA cup for the first time in their history by winning a cup; and then led Valencia to 4th in Liga (2013-14) and Porto to 2nd place in Primeira (2016-17). And albeit he only lasted 1 season at each club the 2 last clubs he had several seasons of experience in European top leagues (plus that he was a decent player).
But you're wrong about the relegation thing. I am in no way defending Spurs' poor and pathetic performances and results in the PL but the 37 points Spurs have now would have kept them up not only this season...
2023-24 - 18th team 26 points
2022-23 - 18th team 34 points
2021-22 - 18th team 35 points
2020-21 - 18th team 28 points
2019-20 - 18th team 34 points
2018-19 - 18th team 34 points
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His CV is on another planet to Postecoglou I don't know how Ange got the Spurs job. It's only slightly less a punt than Emma Hayes.
 
How did Ange ever get the job? I imagine it probably shocked him as much as anyone else.

It would be the equivalent of going down to the local petrol station for a second job. Coming home and the misses asking how did you go? You stating I didn't get that job but you're now talking to the director of Exxon Mobile operations in Europe.

So yeah I think the interview went well!
 
Robba said:
How did Ange ever get the job? I imagine it probably shocked him as much as anyone else.

It would be the equivalent of going down to the local petrol station for a second job. Coming home and the misses asking how did you go? You stating I didn't get that job but you're now talking to the director of Exxon Mobile operations in Europe.

So yeah I think the interview went well!
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He arrived full of plaudits from Celtic and Australia. Weaker leagues/internationals are different, but sometimes it can work out.

I don't think it was a terrible decision to try him out, but he should've been booted many many months ago.
 
Yeah I agree with you. It was a throw of the dice and it was probably the time to throw the dice. Everything else had been given a run with not a lot of success.

I really believed at the time he was inexperienced at that level but he was good enough to adapt as time rolled on. That sure as shit didn't happen.

His opportunity was between the end of the last season and the start of this one. All the issues were out and known at this time. If he attempted positive change the flock would've followed and it would be nothing like how toxic it is now.

Shot of a lifetime blown through personality defects in my very non professional judgement.
 
Robba said:
How did Ange ever get the job? I imagine it probably shocked him as much as anyone else.

It would be the equivalent of going down to the local petrol station for a second job. Coming home and the misses asking how did you go? You stating I didn't get that job but you're now talking to the director of Exxon Mobile operations in Europe.

So yeah I think the interview went well!
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He got the job because like the top men at Villa and others, the top men at Spurs didn't realise or didn't accept the sheer gulf in class between the SPL and the EPL.

The only Celtic or Rangers manager in recent years that could possibly bridge that gulf would be Brendan Rogers, who has already proven he can perform at that level.

When Ange got the job I was kind of worried because just about every game would be a CL level game. However I thought he might be ok as he'd have CL level players.
I was wrong and so were the people who appointed him.
Spurs and indeed all EPL teams should learn from it. Alex Ferguson is possibly the best manager the EPL has seen. But managers like that aren't ten a penny and he at least won 2 European trophies before coming to England.
If Spurs aren't going to bring in a manager from one of the top leagues, then the next level would be leagues like Portugal Holland the Balkans etc. The SPL is a bit below that level.
 
White Van Jan said:
whenever any of the Ange cretins say but yeah the injuries!!!!!

point them to minute 10 on here. What we've been saying for months. The hamstrings just can't cope with the Aussie Fraud's lunatic tactics


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1t7lWqvDlU

This guy doesn't get paid anything like 5m a year, but he's still worked out how to school our supremo

Over to you AngeSexuals
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Great video. Those sprints back when we lose the ball are killers. Ange should have done what Barca used to do and leave their 2-3 defenders to deal with counters. The rest of the team always jogged back cause they knew they'd outscore the opposition most of the time
 
Gym&Chill said:
Lmao to add salt to the wound Liverpool can win the league against Spurs with just a draw.

Put your life savings on Liverpool.

Although Ange will make it his lifes work to keep Woolwich in it as long as possible just to piss off Spurs fans. He’ll be right up for it.
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Let's be honest Ange dont have the tactical nous to get us a result on Sunday. If we had poch or an elite manager we possibly could though.
 
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