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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Tbf the full quote started with him saying he wasn’t talking about himself but the narrative around the club is always set up to fail.

And that’s a stone cold fact.

It’s so ingrained into the conversation around the club that it’s become a culture and probably even an unconscious one half the time.
He’s adding to that narrative being literally the 4th easiest team in the division to play against and losing over 20 matches in a season.
We bring this shit on ourselves as a club and until we break that narrative it will always be there.
 
Interesting how many comments are manoeuvring the ‘problem’ from Ange to Levy to ‘the narrative’.

The real narrative is that we’ve had a shocking season, largely because of Ange. He’s spent a lot of money (well or badly doesn’t matter, that’s a truth); he’s had much longer than anyone would expect (whether that’s Levy, he’s waiting for a third season or the Europa or whatever); there HAVEa been a lot of injuries (a lot of evidence that this might be down to Ange, or might not)….BUT the real issue right now is that we’re way down the table, can’t win a league game for love nor money, are horrifically open to counter attacks all day long and he’s not changing the instructions to players.

The narrative around our club changes depending on the success we have. Right now, we’re awful - that’s not about being ‘spursy’ or some nonsense, that’s about Ange mismanaging the in-game tactics and not being sacked when he should have been. We can argue the rest of the narrative once the team are performing like they did when Conte chucked his toys out of the pram, or Jose was sacked just before a final or Poch after the semi year.

right now, the bit of the problem that needs to be dealt with is Ange. The invisible narrative can be dealt with later.
 
Interesting how many comments are manoeuvring the ‘problem’ from Ange to Levy to ‘the narrative’.

The real narrative is that we’ve had a shocking season, largely because of Ange. He’s spent a lot of money (well or badly doesn’t matter, that’s a truth); he’s had much longer than anyone would expect (whether that’s Levy, he’s waiting for a third season or the Europa or whatever); there HAVEa been a lot of injuries (a lot of evidence that this might be down to Ange, or might not)….BUT the real issue right now is that we’re way down the table, can’t win a league game for love nor money, are horrifically open to counter attacks all day long and he’s not changing the instructions to players.

The narrative around our club changes depending on the success we have. Right now, we’re awful - that’s not about being ‘spursy’ or some nonsense, that’s about Ange mismanaging the in-game tactics and not being sacked when he should have been. We can argue the rest of the narrative once the team are performing like they did when Conte chucked his toys out of the pram, or Jose was sacked just before a final or Poch after the semi year.

right now, the bit of the problem that needs to be dealt with is Ange. The invisible narrative can be dealt with later.

The narrative isn't shifting until we win, it's as simple as that. It didn't shift when Poch had us in our prime and won't do until we lift a trophy.
 
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There's an ant crawling across my kitchen floor (actual photo). I've named him Ant Postecoglou. Should I...

a. Tread on him now

b. Give him another season

c. Wait a few weeks and see if we end up with a trophy - then make a decision?
 
It's about long term vision and building a successful team.

The other team cannot score if you have the ball.

Spurs have been repeatedly let down by individual errors, and inexperienced players have been exposed.

The quality of the squad is poor.

Ange's ship has sailed. We look set to lose Bentencuar, Romero and Porro in the summer; and Barca's scouts are watching Bergvall. City want Madison and Kulu is wanted in Italy. Dragusin has wanted out for quite some time, and Sarr is admired in Spain.

How do expect the next coach to perform?

Season after season we have a squad that doesn't match fans expectations....and every time we call for the head of the coach.
Still totally mental. Fair play 👏
 
He’s adding to that narrative being literally the 4th easiest team in the division to play against and losing over 20 matches in a season.
We bring this shit on ourselves as a club and until we break that narrative it will always be there.

Narrative was there under Poch when we were probably the toughest to play agains.

We don't help ourselves as Spurs fans by going along with it.
 
I’ve never really understood it tbh, there’s plenty to criticise the bloke for without just calling him names.
Politically Correct Semantics. If you can't call Postecoglou a fat cunt on TFC, when he's ruined our season as badly as he has, the game's gone and we might as well all turn our devices off or pop over to Mumsnet and discuss the relative Tog ratings of duvets.
 
Don't think moving to a lesser Epl team would have been a stepping stone, but another "Bridge Too Far"
A lesser league first would have been a stepping stone.
I think a lesser EPL team, with players with worse quality, would suit him even worse. If he goes to Leeds for example, been some vague rumours about that, I'm pretty sure they would become Southampton under Russell Martin 2.0 where they would constantly try, and constantly fail, to play out from the back despite their players not being capable of doing so effectively whatsoever.
 
Narrative was there under Poch when we were probably the toughest to play agains.

We don't help ourselves as Spurs fans by going along with it.
Not going along with it - it’s there for a reason mate. We are the biggest underachieving club in England, that’s a fact.
Nothing will break it but success on the pitch which we never have.
Blaning fans in any way is a joke imo - look what we have been through like!
 
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