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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I’ve never really understood it tbh, there’s plenty to criticise the bloke for without just calling him names.
Politically Correct Semantics. If you can't call Postecoglou a fat cunt on TFC, when he's ruined our season as badly as he has, the game's gone and we might as well all turn our devices off or pop over to Mumsnet and discuss the relative Tog ratings of duvets.
 
Don't think moving to a lesser Epl team would have been a stepping stone, but another "Bridge Too Far"
A lesser league first would have been a stepping stone.
I think a lesser EPL team, with players with worse quality, would suit him even worse. If he goes to Leeds for example, been some vague rumours about that, I'm pretty sure they would become Southampton under Russell Martin 2.0 where they would constantly try, and constantly fail, to play out from the back despite their players not being capable of doing so effectively whatsoever.
 
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There's an ant crawling across my kitchen floor (actual photo). I've named him Ant Postecoglou. Should I...

a. Tread on him now

b. Give him another season

c. Wait a few weeks and see if we end up with a trophy - then make a decision?

Take him outside , no need to kill it 🐜
 
Narrative was there under Poch when we were probably the toughest to play agains.

We don't help ourselves as Spurs fans by going along with it.
Not going along with it - it’s there for a reason mate. We are the biggest underachieving club in England, that’s a fact.
Nothing will break it but success on the pitch which we never have.
Blaning fans in any way is a joke imo - look what we have been through like!
 
A lot of what Ange has said is correct. The club are taken for a laughing stock all the time, regardless of finishing 4th or 16th. We’re constantly bantered about trophies, despite being one of the most successful in England. Pundits like Carragher constantly talk us down and other media companies just accept it.



He might have let us down this season in the league, but he does genuinely want the club to be successful and want the media to stop the narrative they have.

Ange the manager and Ange the man are two separate things, and the man speaks a lot of sense about the state of the game, the club and the future.
 
Not going along with it - it’s there for a reason mate. We are the biggest underachieving club in England, that’s a fact.
Nothing will break it but success on the pitch which we never have.
Blaning fans in any way is a joke imo - look what we have been through like!

What is this based on?

Finances, history, prestige?
 
Player injuries
Will play better when they return
Returning players not up to fitness
Changing lineup because of the number of games not helping
Fixture congestion
Having to play young kids
Mole in the camp


It's a rinse and repeat number of excuses rehashed to fit the result.

He's toast, and he knows it, Europa League win or not.
Yep he can hear the death knell tolling and he’s in full preservation mode!

I’m sick of seeing this guy’s mug and hearing his waffle!
 
A lot of what Ange has said is correct. The club are taken for a laughing stock all the time, regardless of finishing 4th or 16th. We’re constantly bantered about trophies, despite being one of the most successful in England. Pundits like Carragher constantly talk us down and other media companies just accept it.



He might have let us down this season in the league, but he does genuinely want the club to be successful and want the media to stop the narrative they have.

Ange the manager and Ange the man are two separate things, and the man speaks a lot of sense about the state of the game, the club and the future.

I think this is quite accurate.

In that respect, it's a real shame Postecoglou has not been able to solve the riddle.
 
Ange is not wrong that there is a narrative around Tottenham but unfortunately we’ve earned it through years of soft teams that can’t handle pressure. It’s justified.

Ange might be earnestly trying to change that but he has failed completely. There has never been a Tottenham team that is easier to beat than his.
 
And now we have a manager, who according to Djed Spence, allows them to fail on the pitch without criticism because if they do it’s because he’s asked them to play in a certain way (that doesn’t work) so it’s on him. Then we wonder why the players don’t really look bothered!

Get Poch back in, get them walking on hot coals in training with an arrow at their throats and toughen them up. The only time any of what you say didn’t seem true was when he was here. Let him try and turn this lot into warriors, get rid of those who won’t, and get them facing some responsibility like men.

That comes from him allowing the players to play without fear of making mistakes, to build their confidence, playing with postivity. If the players then take that to mean they can fuck about without consequences then that 's on them.

I wish Poch anybody else- bar the likes of Guardiola or Ancelotti good luck in "toughening" this lot up.
 
The narrative isn't shifting until we win, it's as simple as that. It didn't shift when Poch had us in our prime and won't do until we lift a trophy.
I disagree - it began to shift a little - but we certainly didn’t help ourselves by losing all of our SFs. I definitely recall time when we were viewed as challengers to the big teams on a consistent basis - but our equally consistent efforts to slip up when the moment came made the comfortable Dr Tottenham reappear.

Having said that, the fiasco of this last year has set the hard work that’s happened over the past ten years or so back quite a way IMO. Whoever comes in after Ange will have to work extra hard and hit the ground running.

It wasn’t so long ago that we were Citeh’s bogey team; it wasn’t so long ago when we were used to giving Liverpool a very good challenge / going over at WHL; we consistently beat Utd even when they weren’t quite the shitshow they are now. I think we’re in danger of forgetting that the past two years are in contrast to our achievements since Redknapp at least. Yes, Levy is a part of the issue; but we’ve created our own narrative.

At least we were in the conversation before - now, thanks to Ange IMO, we’re expected to be beaten week-in, week-out.
 
That comes from him allowing the players to play without fear of making mistakes, to build their confidence, playing with postivity. If the players then take that to mean they can fuck about without consequences then that 's on them.

I wish Poch anybody else- bar the likes of Guardiola or Ancelotti good luck in "toughening" this lot up.
What a weird concept.
 
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