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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
harry7 said:
So out of his depth that he managed to finish 5th in the Premier League and made it to 2 semi finals?

Something most other coaches would only dream of.

Fact of the matter is, we binned off the league in December. The squad was bare bones and we had to pick our battles. Go for in in the cups (less fixtures, more breaks), or try and scrape 6th place (more fixtures, play every week).

Give the man a proper squad, we will challenge for the title in his 4th season.
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You really are the biggest nugget I've ever seen on this site...and Lord knows you've got some challengers.

Friggin Phil Brown, Steve Kean or Ian Holloway would've had us 5th last season and in two semis this year. Neil Warnock, Steve Bruce or Tony Mowbray would've done better than that.

This season's EL is the weakest edition of the competition in years. We struggled to beat Qarabag, Ferencvaros, AZ (thrice) and Hoffenheim. We needed the kids vs Elfsborg. Deserved to lose vs Roma and if Ange's beloved football gods hadn't been on our side vs Galatasaray, we'd have conceded 12.

Oooooh but we beat United and City in the Carabao Cup. Big fucking deal. It's the worst Man U team in decades and City aren't the City of old either. Soon as we faced proper competition, we were sent packing in humiliating fashion.

Let's not even talk about the embarrassing PL defeats we've had this season...and last. The only reason we finished P5 is cause of that start we had. Since then it's been 18 months of vomit-inducing shite.

If you genuinely believe Ange is that great manager and that it's all cause of the injuries & many other lame excuses he's come up with, then you really are a friggin idiot. And if you're just spouting TalkSport levels of shit just to get reactions, then you are some seriously pathetic dude. Or you know you're wrong but are so damn proud and egocentric that you'd rather keep digging than admit the blatant truth. Whatever it is, you are an embarrassment, pal.
 
Harrier said:
There does seem to be a flurry of interviews with Ange and the players doing the rounds, obviously set up by the clubs media team.

Has an end of days feel about it and is a tad cringe. Although the headline on Vic’s ‘Loving Ange Postecoglou’s ‘untraditional’ approach to football’ made me guffaw!
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The Vicario one is interesting because he’s basically talking about Ange in the past tense and with reverence.

Saying how he will “always remember the way he speaks to the team”.
 
Kosher Kid said:
It hasn't worked.

That is a fact.

But it did work for a brief period of ten games before injuries and suspensions.

I stand by my statement that Ange has been made to look a fool because I believe Levy should have protected him by letting him go before Christmas.

He's struggled with the pressers, dealing with the supporters and generally been exposed as not being up to the task.

That is on Levy for me.

Levy's mistake to appoint Ange but compounded by the terrible decision to continue with Ange when it seems obvious to everyone that senior players have checked out months ago and belief has collapsed.

We're all frustrated but insulting Ange and directing anger towards him is misplaced in my opinion.

He's a man who had to take the job and have a go; despite it now being obvious he was out of his depth and comfort zone.
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People always mention those first ten games. If you actually look back at those games we were incredibly lucky with last minute goals. The now familiar patterns of play were evident too, unable to break teams down. Those first ten games were blind luck more than anything.
 
Pól said:
People always mention those first ten games. If you actually look back at those games we were incredibly lucky with last minute goals. The now familiar patterns of play were evident too, unable to break teams down. Those first ten games were blind luck more than anything.
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It was mostly a new manager bounce combined with a new club bounce for Maddison.

Been mediocre to shit ever since with a few rare exceptions.
 
Jaynola said:
You really are the biggest nugget I've ever seen on this site...and Lord knows you've got some challengers.

Friggin Phil Brown, Steve Kean or Ian Holloway would've had us 5th last season and in two semis this year. Neil Warnock, Steve Bruce or Tony Mowbray would've done better than that.

This season's EL is the weakest edition of the competition in years. We struggled to beat Qarabag, Ferencvaros, AZ (thrice) and Hoffenheim. We needed the kids vs Elfsborg. Deserved to lose vs Roma and if Ange's beloved football gods hadn't been on our side vs Galatasaray, we'd have conceded 12.

Oooooh but we beat United and City in the Carabao Cup. Big fucking deal. It's the worst Man U team in decades and City aren't the City of old either. Soon as we faced proper competition, we were sent packing in humiliating fashion.

Let's not even talk about the embarrassing PL defeats we've had this season...and last. The only reason we finished P5 is cause of that start we had. Since then it's been 18 months of vomit-inducing shite.

If you genuinely believe Ange is that great manager and that it's all cause of the injuries & many other lame excuses he's come up with, then you really are a friggin idiot. And if you're just spouting TalkSport levels of shit just to get reactions, then you are some seriously pathetic dude. Or you know you're wrong but are so damn proud and egocentric that you'd rather keep digging than admit the blatant truth. Whatever it is, you are an embarrassment, pal.
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Utter nonsense.

We were 4 points off 2nd place after 12 games this season, and had just beaten City.

It all went to shit because of injuries and the club not providing a good enough squad...filling the gaps with kids and poor quality players.

The medical team is a complete joke and has been completely innept and getting injuries players back to fitness. This has been going on for years.
 
harry7 said:
Utter nonsense.

We were 4 points off 2nd place after 12 games this season, and had just beaten City.

It all went to shit because of injuries and the club not providing a good enough squad...filling the gaps with kids and poor quality players.

The medical team is a complete joke and has been completely innept and getting injuries players back to fitness. This has been going on for years.
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Gatsby said:
I honestly believe there are some people who want us to lose this semi so its another stick to beat Ange with.

I’m part of a Spurs supporters group and I don’t lie when one of guys in it would rather finish 7th and qualify for Europe than win the Europa and finish bottom half. Amazes me.
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you know finishing seventh doesn't involve losing 20 fucking matches. i think that gets overlooked in the i'd rather win a trophy debate. it's been a miserable slog of a season that i'm not sure winning a second rate cup will take the stink off of.
 
StripiestPilot said:
Ange got shown up by the Tamworth manager, I wouldn’t make us favourites against anyone with him in charge.
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I know Andy Peaks quite well from his playing days at Rushden.

Never the most gifted of players, his effort and character far outweighed his talent on the pitch.

As a manager of Rushden before moving on to Tamworth he managed both sides and I hate to say this in the same style as when Brian Talbot managed Rushden.

He set out a plan and a system against us and was determined to stick to it.

I talked to him a couple of weeks after that game. He always though that our midfield wad weak defensively, we were predictable in the way we move the ball, and our will to fight was low.

Just my ten cents worth.
 
StripiestPilot said:
Ange got shown up by the Tamworth manager, I wouldn’t make us favourites against anyone with him in charge.
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I know Andy Peaks quite well from his playing days at Rushden.

Never the most gifted of players, his effort and character far outweighed his talent on the pitch.

As a manager of Rushden before moving on to Tamworth he managed both sides and I hate to say this in the same style as when Brian Talbot managed Rushden.

He set out a plan and a system against us and was determined to stick to it.

I talked to him a couple of weeks after that game. He always though that our midfield wad weak defensively, we were predictable in the way we move the ball, and our will to fight was low.

Just my ten cents worth.
StripiestPilot said:
I think the concern for all fans is that Levy might just he stupid and cowardly enough to stick with Ange if he wins this trophy. We all want that reassurance that he won’t be here next season.

The atmosphere at home matches is absolutely dead and nobody is bothered about facing us anymore. He has turned us into a pathetic side. Winning the EL won’t make me want another season of games like Leicester and Ipswich at home.
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Ange will go, winning the EL isn't a safety net for him.

You just have to look at our remaining games, we will end up losing over twenty PL games this season, could even be twenty two, and that's being generous.

That for whomever the team and manager is in any professional league is unacceptable.
 
harry7 said:
It's about long term vision and building a successful team.

The other team cannot score if you have the ball.

Spurs have been repeatedly let down by individual errors, and inexperienced players have been exposed.

The quality of the squad is poor.

Ange's ship has sailed. We look set to lose Bentencuar, Romero and Porro in the summer; and Barca's scouts are watching Bergvall. City want Madison and Kulu is wanted in Italy. Dragusin has wanted out for quite some time, and Sarr is admired in Spain.

How do expect the next coach to perform?

Season after season we have a squad that doesn't match fans expectations....and every time we call for the head of the coach.
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Pathfinder said:
Not sure if this is a recent interview but he clearly doesn't know the sentiment of the fans of how to deal with them in high level competition.
He should understand that no Spurs fans want Woolwich to win the EPL title even if that meant Spurs losing a game where they - unless, of course, Spurs were challenging for something.
His native tactics themselves is like asking Spurs to lose.

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Postecoglou just has to comment on everything. There was no need last year to comment on fans wanting Spurs to lose the Man City game and deny Woolrich the title. Managers routinely find ways to give non-answers to that kind of question. The idea of bringing that all back up now is just sticking a thumb in people's eye for no reason. He was idolized at his other teams in lesser leagues and now he seems resentful that fans have noticed the poor results this season.
 
harry7 said:
Utter nonsense.

We were 4 points off 2nd place after 12 games this season, and had just beaten City.

It all went to shit because of injuries and the club not providing a good enough squad...filling the gaps with kids and poor quality players.

The medical team is a complete joke and has been completely innept and getting injuries players back to fitness. This has been going on for years.
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As always the truth is somewhere in the middle. Ange isn't as big of a fraud as this season looks imo. There are some mitigating factors but this level of performance in the league is just unacceptable no matter what. The fact that it really hasn't gotten any better with players coming back is the final nail in the coffin. There's some arguments that the injuries hurt continuity, training, etc...but there should still be some improvement. In combination with some just wretched performances...Everton, Leicester, etc...It's just too much to logically say he deserves another chance. He's probably not as good as 5th but not as bad as 16th. This openness at the back, lack of attention to detail on some things, etc are just not cut out to compete at the level we want to be at where the margins between success and failure are just much much smaller.

I don't care so much about the stuff in the media. When you are losing this much...there's nothing to be said that's going to go over well. Obviously he's defensive, talking in circles, etc. He has to answer the same questions every match and we're not playing any better. All the stuff with the fans. Who cares. We don't have to have a love affair with our coach. And ultimately when you're losing this much. There's no action that's going to make it better or worse.
 
harry7 said:
Utter nonsense.

We were 4 points off 2nd place after 12 games this season, and had just beaten City.

It all went to shit because of injuries and the club not providing a good enough squad...filling the gaps with kids and poor quality players.

The medical team is a complete joke and has been completely innept and getting injuries players back to fitness. This has been going on for years.
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Keep foul voting this troll folks .I can only do it once a month.
 
harry7 said:
Well, that 58 year old with no experienced managed to get 5th in his premier league season, with losing Harry Kane and having no replacement striker.

He also got us to 2 semi finals, playing a bunch of 18 year olds and a different squad every week.

So how about show some respect.
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You know everyone is laughing at you, right?
They're not laughing at your attempt at talking down to me, they're laughing at your inability to share the same reality as the rest of the human race.
 
Get the fat cunt the fuck out at half time. Make him walk home from that shithole. If one of the Bindippers gets him and he disappears, even better.
 
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