And that's with keeping a clean sheet in one of the games

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And that's with keeping a clean sheet in one of the games
In 10 years you'll be looking back and saying, "Remember that season we finished 17th and nearly won the EL." That's what you'll be saying mate.If it ends with a European trophy, I won't be looking back in 10 years and thinking 'remember that season we finished 16th', I'll be saying 'remember that season we won a European trophy?'
I don't want Ange here next season either, and the league form is unforgiveable, but let's not pretend winning Europa is some sort of failure when in fact it's a huge success.
And if so then yeh, I'll be annoyed.In 10 years you'll be looking back and saying, "Remember that season we finished 17th and nearly won the EL." That's what you'll be saying mate.
That fact Levy has allowed it to get to this stage is embarrassing. Remember that Poch was sacked after losing 4 premier league games in a season. Yes it was a mess after the Bayern Game and the Brighton game were bad losses. Never in a million years did I think Levy would allow a manager to lose 19 games and still be here.
Massive celebrations in Rotherham as they get that monkey off their back.
I remember we were bottom half shite the last 2 time we won a cup.I love the fact that we're in a semi final, and all of a sudden it's "second rate" or "the opposition has been crap".
Honestly, you'd think we're serial winners and that we're better than this trophy, when in reality we've been dogshit in terms of winning silverware for near 2 decades. Why is it when we have a chance to win something do our fans suddenly decide it's not worthwhile or we fluked it? You think Newcastle care that it's "only the league cup"? Their fans had one of the best days of their footballing lives, and I want that as well.
League season has been horrific, the worst in my lifetime as a Spurs fan. If it ends with a European trophy, I won't be looking back in 10 years and thinking 'remember that season we finished 16th', I'll be saying 'remember that season we won a European trophy?'
I don't want Ange here next season either, and the league form is unforgiveable, but let's not pretend winning Europa is some sort of failure when in fact it's a huge success.
Unfortunately I think some would rather finish 4th than qualify that way.Wether or not the Europa is second rate. It leads to CL qualification, and there's NOTHING second rate about that
That has changed the entire Europa League debate. It should always have been that way.Wether or not the Europa is second rate. It leads to CL qualification, and there's NOTHING second rate about that
I'd rather finish anywhere in the top 6-8 and win the ropey league.Unfortunately I think some would rather finish 4th than qualify that way.
League dignity is dead and buried this year.I remember we were bottom half shite the last 2 time we won a cup.
I remember we sacked the cup winning coach 8 games in to the subsequent season having set a premier league record for least points in the first 8 games. I think that was only beaten this season by Southampton.
I think the odds are though, that we bottle the Europa league, either this round or the final. And we'd have totally thrown away any league dignity.
It definitely doesn't make up for this season, Ange should still go.You wouldn't Paul, you don't think this club can do anything wrong... this trophy is the second rate European trophy... that is a fact... it use to be for team who finished second and third in their league, now it's teams who finish 5th, 6th, 7th or winners of the lesser leagues who get smashed in Champions League qualifiers... that is a face... it was devalued further when Champions League teams no longer dropped into it when they fucked up their Champions League campaign... that is a fact... will I be happy if we win it... absolutely... does it save this season... not even remotely.
Oh absolutely, I agree with you. But we haven't actually proven we can do that for a long long time.I'd rather finish anywhere in the top 6-8 and win the ropey league.
Top 4 and any trophy should be the aim every season.
Bottom 5 is, to quote Conte, "unnasettable"
You rightly say, having a winning mentality means taking every competition seriously, that should have been the league & FA cup too, both of which have been pathetic. Europa league looks like it’s been prioritised because they stumbled through a lot of it. I am not sure it’s been because that was the plan.See, I don't understand this mentality. For years we've heard fans shouting we want more trophies. Fans of other clubs making jokes about the new addition to our trophy room being the carpet etc.
Now we're 3 games from winning our first trophy in 17 years and first European trophy in 41 years, and fans are saying its a piece of shit trophy not to get excited about.
I guarantee Man City fans would celebrate winning it, so would Chelsea, so would Liverpool. We'd all rather win the Champions League of course, but having a winning mentality means taking every competition seriously....forget our rivals turning it into a second rate cup, some of our own fans are already doing it!
The easy solution to this bit is to stop caring what fans of other teams think of us.Our rivals (which there are many) will turn this into a second rate cup... for any club with CL ambition, it's like the league cup... happy if you win it, not bothered if you get knocked out in the group stage so long as your league form is good... the only reason we are wetting ourselves about it is because this season has been like running through the Gobi desert with a full astronaut outfit on and no water... hot, sweaty, dehydrating and will end with paramedics giving me mouth to mouth.
Our fanbase spent most the season focusing their energy on a losing battle (Levy protests)when the worst 'manager' known to mankind was taking the piss out of the fanbase at every opportunity whilst losing every game possible.
Well bully for Bilbao then.Wether or not the Europa is second rate. It leads to CL qualification, and there's NOTHING second rate about that
You're absolutely right there. Ange has made a complete mess of every competition this season, including the Europa league. However we're still in it, we have a chance to win it and get that 'Spursy' tag off our backs a bit, plus it leads to CL qualification.You rightly say, having a winning mentality means taking every competition seriously, that should have been the league & FA cup too, both of which have been pathetic. Europa league looks like it’s been prioritised because they stumbled through a lot of it. I am not sure it’s been because that was the plan.
If they have us 16th after 2 seasons and are generally obnoxious, excuse making tossers then i agree. Jol, Redknapp and Poch largely managed to avoid that abuse strangely.i'll bet steak dinners everyone's in the next manager thread calling him a cunt and asking why isnt he sacked within 24 months