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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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I can only be wrong if Frank takes over and challenges for the league every season. Everything else is opinion. It's like me saying you're wrong as Frank will be a completely fucking disaster. Let's not kid ourselves he is working on a shoe string either. He's not and his body of work is pretty ordinary. Also, who is to say LVG wouldn't have taken that squad and turned it into champions? You can't because he never got the opportunity.
You understood that you gave your opinion decrying people who want Iraola Silva or Frank. That's you giving and opinion and me saying your wrong because Pochettino did not have top of the league status when we got him this is provably true irrespective of what 'would have happened with LVG .

That's what we do debate ideas. I think you are wrong, and I don't need a year of Frank in the job or every season for ever to substantiate the opinion, no more than you misusing Blanchflowers quote makes the people who belive the hiring of the three coaches mentioned lacks ambition. You're own statements are contradictory and odd. Can't you see you have done exactly what you claim to have an issue with...ffs Oh and Frank is absolutely working on a shoestring budget compared to us Their record transfer fee is less than half of ours. Our turn over is six times greater than there's .
 
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Still, the Reddit massive are flying in front of the geezer to take a bullet for him.

Even calling Spurs fans "deluded" and "detached from reality" for expecting anything better for Spurs.

I hope all these cunts fuck off when he does.

I genuinely think most reddit football posters are about 15.

It’s just all YouTube influenced bollocks.
 
Mans got jokes :sonpoint:

Although people in here know you're trolling but they're all gonna react to you and have a complete meltdown over your post, get ready for some abuse as well ☠️
I was being genuine. Is winning the Europa League but finishing 17th in the league more impressive than finishing second in the league or reaching the CL Final?

I'm not even saying winning the EL is enough for Ange to save his job. I'd argue reaching the CL Final is a bigger achievement than winning the EL. But winning the first trophy in 17 years would be an amazing achievement all things considered.
 
I was being genuine. Is winning the Europa League but finishing 17th in the league more impressive than finishing second in the league or reaching the CL Final?

I'm not even saying winning the EL is enough for Ange to save his job. I'd argue reaching the CL Final is a bigger achievement than winning the EL. But winning the first trophy in 17 years would be an amazing achievement all things considered.

It would be a great achievement but fans are going to remember this season for the shite we had to put up with more than anything, record books might say so but fans don't forget.

There's a lot of misty eyed-ness over Poch and this fanbase isn't putting any memories of Ange over Poch no matter what we win with him.
 
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I'm not an Ange defender, but if Spurs somehow win the Europa League, would you say this season was better than any season under Poch?


Haha absolutely not. It's not hard to see the Europe League success if we actually win it, in isolation.

For me and I think many fans, the bread and butter is the league. The annoying thing about this season is we've been so so poor, that it will take the gloss off winning a european trophy.

A club like us should be combining a top 4 challenge with winning the Europa, not a relegation battle.

You can win a cup with 3 or 4 good games a season, but the league is every week and you need to deliver.

Which is why the Poch years were so enjoyable, even if we finished empty handed. We looked forward to seeing a quality side beating the opposition almost every week, home and away. That is priceless. Seeing opposition fans jealous of how good we were.

It was great.

Football is weird, in that you can win a trophy and still be a shit side, although it doesn't happen often. What is more important, top 4 finish or a cup win? IMO you have to have both. A cup win whilst finishing 17th is frankly pathetic. It should be top 4/6 and a cup win.

We are where we are though, so all that is left for this season is to win the Europa League and then move on from this dreadful season.

But next season, our bread and butter is the league and we must be much much improved. We can't be losing as many as we have this season, end of.
 
I was being genuine. Is winning the Europa League but finishing 17th in the league more impressive than finishing second in the league or reaching the CL Final?

I'm not even saying winning the EL is enough for Ange to save his job. I'd argue reaching the CL Final is a bigger achievement than winning the EL. But winning the first trophy in 17 years would be an amazing achievement all things considered.
for me this cup will be diminished by all the losses in the league. sure, i'll be happy but i certainly won't fondly remember this awful season the way i remember a lot of the poch years when it felt like we could beat anyone in the world on our day. but that's spurs innit? finally get a trophy and it's a season where we lose more than half our matches and are coached by a cunt i despise.
 
You understood that you gave your opinion decrying people who want Iraola Silva or Frank. That's you giving and opinion and me saying your wrong because Pochettino did not have top of the league status when we got him this is provably true irrespective of what 'would have happened with LVG .

That's what we do debate ideas. I think you are wrong, and I don't need a year of Frank in the job or every season for ever to substantiate the opinion, no more than you misusing Blanchflowers quote makes the people who belive the hiring of the three coaches mentioned lacks ambition. You're own statements are contradictory and odd. Can't you see you have done exactly what you claim to have an issue with...ffs Oh and Frank is absolutely working on a shoestring budget compared to us Their record transfer fee is less than half of ours. Our turn over is six times greater than there's .
Remind me, what did Pochettino win? I'm actually not going to get into this with you... you're happy with mediocrity because it's better than what Ange is serving up, but I'm not... Also when I "misuse a quote" which by they way I got it perfectly right for the context I was aiming for i.e none of those three are good enough in my opinion... at least have the fucking decency to know who was responsible for the quote.
 
Remind me, what did Pochettino win? I'm actually not going to get into this with you... you're happy with mediocrity because it's better than what Ange is serving up, but I'm not... Also when I "misuse a quote" which by they way I got it perfectly right for the context I was aiming for i.e none of those three are good enough in my opinion... at least have the fucking decency to know who was responsible for the quote.

No trophies for Poch but what he did win for 2-3 years was respect from the PL and no one wanted to play against us!

Statistically we were the best team in the PL during this time but, of course, no trophies to show for it!
 
Player of the year and young player awards last home game of season. Hand the awards out etc. Then final award should be special achievement award of the season. Hand a framed P45 to Ange on the pitch and kindly ask him to leave. I can live with that.
 
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