Imagine the state of his tea...98% fat on that table.
The floaters the man produce gotta be something else. You go in behind him, wear a friggin hazmat suit.
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The floaters the man produce gotta be something else. You go in behind him, wear a friggin hazmat suit.
For the record, we've paid circa 80mil in compensation fees since ENIC been our owners.
Agreed but for fun
Eriksen 11
Dier 4
Alli 5
Wanyama 11
Lloris 12
Total = 43
Sanchez = 42
And spot on with the Dier comments... how can one of our rejects be a regular for the Bayern Munich. Make it make sense without using the words farmers league.
Not for me.
Winning is winning. All you get for coming 2nd is the feeling of what ifs and if onlys
There’s no escaping that Sport is about winning.
There’s a conversation to be had about the merits of finishing 4th versus, say, 8th and winning a cup.
But playing like absolute cunts for over a year and sitting in 16th is not alleviated by any trophy.
There’s a lot of this gaslighting going on, attempting to paint Ange as some sort of competitive catalyst.
He’s an over promoted chancer that has been completely found out at this level. If we win the EL it’s despite this bozo, not because of him.
All sport is about winning.
The problem with football is that the same clubs win all the time in all the biggest leagues.
It’s great for teaching young men to accept the status quo in society but terrible for reflecting the true competitive nature of Sports.
The PL loves to sell the idea that it’s unpredictable and exciting but then Liverpool win their 20th league title joining UTD and you look at the list of clubs that win regularly and realize that really it’s just an aristocracy masquerading as a Sports league.
Sport cannot be just about winning trophies/titles because it's impossible for everyone to win.
The whole goal of sport is winning.
A gladiator in the ring doesn’t win they die. Modern sport is more civilized than that but the same rules apply.
Sure there are other things to get from being B involved in Sport, like friendship, camaraderie, health benefits etc but the goal is winning.
If you didn’t win it wasn’t success. You can also make a great case that sports teach you how to deal with failure because normally people don’t win all the time.
It’s only in the biggest pro leagues where you get these oligopolies with the same clubs winning all the time.
Maddison better shut up, he's in no position to talk after two shit seasons.
Should never have signed him. Was so obvious but our club doesn't even know the meaning of due diligence.
This whole debate around League vs trophies, in the context of assessing Ange, somewhat relies on the notion that this current situation is a conscious decision.
It's not.
We have been gash all season long in the League, the 1-1 draw to kick things off at Leicester was shit, the 2-1 loss at Newcastle was shit. People were clinging on to pointless metrics that they somehow believed demonstrated that we "dominated" and would come good, but we were shit, and have gotten progressively worse.
That wasn't a conscious decision to save ourselves for the Europa Semis. The manager hasn't thrown the league in order to concentrate on the cups, he has had no say in the matter due to his ineptitude, and has been massively fortunate in receiving a ludicrously easy route to this stage of the Europa.
Sacrificing the league form to focus on the cups sees you drop a few places down the table, not freefall to relegation form.
We're just shit and have skanked our way to a promising position in a knockout competition. Nobody at the club should be patting themselves on the back for this. Bilbao will pick us off with ease should we make it to the Final, and I'd fully expect Utd to do us should we face them too.
As it happens, I reckon Bodo will save us the ignominy and boot us out without much fuss this round anyhow.
The debate is about winning trophies/titles.
If it's all about winning then you're saying that 99% of Sports teams/players are failures, that's not how it works - for example the 3 promoted clubs that came up this season, their target wasn't to win the Premier League or a domestic comp, it was to survive.
Name me another league in the football world or in fact another sport where every team/competitor would be classed as failures for not winning the prize come the end of the season.
2nd in PL + CL semis > 16th + EL win.
Thing is if he went to Newcastle, we'd be crying as to why we didn't sign him.
He's by no means a shit player, just in a system that doesn't get the best out of him.
Not getting a trophy trumps winning a trophy?
It's a real challenge to name a single player that this system does get the best out of.
Exactly. All this "next season will be relegation" and "this squad isn't good enough" is total bollocks. New manager with tactical know how and we'll be back up there.
Yes, if they don't win, then they failed.
In every sport, every participant bar 1 failed. That's how it works.
Some failures feel better than others, i.e. getting a medal at the Olympics, especially if you were an underdog to start with.
But second place is the first loser, whether anyone likes it or not.
So just to be clear, if Burnley don't win the Premier League next season, they're failures and they've failed their objective?