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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Where has this pragmatic approach been all season ? If he had just pulled his ego in and pulled back on the all out attack we would be in a much better league position and we wouldn't be waiting for him to leave . Just very frustrating .
We had a different starting 11 almost every week, with regular changes to back 4 happening days b4 kick off.

This means no time to prepare, no time to organise and less ability to play a structured, controlled system.

What you have prepared for in training with Van De Ven doesn't work with Ben Davies.

Bissouma can drop back and pick up the ball under pressure, Bergvall can't.

Johnson can ghost defenders and find space in the box, Kulu is better in tight spaces.

In these situations, the experience of the players on the pitch is the most important factor. Experienced players can adapt and will have better judgement, especially when it comes to taking risk and reading the game.
 

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We had a different starting 11 almost every week, with regular changes to back 4 happening days b4 kick off.

This means no time to prepare, no time to organise and less ability to play a structured, controlled system.

What you have prepared for in training with Van De Ven doesn't work with Ben Davies.

Bissouma can drop back and pick up the ball under pressure, Bergvall can't.

Johnson can ghost defenders and find space in the box, Kulu is better in tight spaces.

In these situations, the experience of the players on the pitch is the most important factor. Experienced players can adapt and will have better judgement, especially when it comes to taking risk and reading the game.
Mate , your buying into the narrative , excuses , excuses , excuses .
For all the reasons you have listed it was all the more reason for him to set up the team more pragmatically , as in more emphasis on defence , players like Davies has been around a long time and know how to defend , but they were still set up for him to do what VDV done . there were plenty of players with league and international experience , it's not like we were lacking in real experience .
I don't know what football team you have been watching but Bissouma , I don't remember him dropping back and picking up the ball under pressure and doing something with it , mostly on those occasions he lost it . Never seen Johnson ghost defenders , not knocking his goals but as a wide attacking player he is very deficient in attacking capabilities .
The players that were available when we had injuries were more than capable if set up properly .
I was an Ange fan but I won't accept the total abdication of defence , and that was ahat it was , and it's not like it was a hard fix , but he said it , it's not the way we play , but he chose his path and he has to accept what lies at the end of that road .
Possibly 20+ losses in the PL is totally unacceptable , and that is the true indication of your form , if you don't understand that then there isn't a lot that I or anybody else can help you with .
A belligerent defence of 20 + losses will never win you a debate .
 
Let me explain why Ange Postecoglou's season at Spurs looks suspiciously like a bell curve—and why, if he wins something, he may just ascend into Tottenham Royalty.

A bell curve (aka Gaussian distribution, for those still traumatised by Year 11 stats) is a way of visualising how opinions or performance typically cluster around a midpoint. Most people hover in the middle, while fewer cling to the extremes. It’s used in psychology, education and economics to make sense of distribution of things... such as opinions.

Mapped onto Spurs this year:
  • Left Tail (The Skeptics)
    These folks were never convinced. “Too naive,” “This isn’t the J-League, mate,” and “Where’s the defensive structure?” They roll their eyes when Ange talks about ‘courage’ and ‘identity’. They tweet things like “bring back Conteball.” Or "This is unacceptable"
  • Centre Mass (The Realists/Cautious Optimists)
    This is the bulk of the fan base. They saw the bright start, suffered through the injury apocalypse, and are still standing—just. “We’re building something—but we need to win eventually.”
  • Right Tail (The Believers)
    The Kool-Aid has been drunk. They’d follow Ange into a burning building if he told them it was about “bravery in possession.” They talk about “the long-term project” and quote his pressers like scripture. They still think finishing 17th with style is better than 4th with a low block.
But here’s the kicker: If we win against Man U. Ange becomes more than a manager—he becomes a myth. The man who brought swagger, serotonin, and silverware to N17. He will be Tottenham Royalty 😉
 
Let me explain why Ange Postecoglou's season at Spurs looks suspiciously like a bell curve—and why, if he wins something, he may just ascend into Tottenham Royalty.

A bell curve (aka Gaussian distribution, for those still traumatised by Year 11 stats) is a way of visualising how opinions or performance typically cluster around a midpoint. Most people hover in the middle, while fewer cling to the extremes. It’s used in psychology, education and economics to make sense of distribution of things... such as opinions.

Mapped onto Spurs this year:
  • Left Tail (The Skeptics)
    These folks were never convinced. “Too naive,” “This isn’t the J-League, mate,” and “Where’s the defensive structure?” They roll their eyes when Ange talks about ‘courage’ and ‘identity’. They tweet things like “bring back Conteball.” Or "This is unacceptable"
  • Centre Mass (The Realists/Cautious Optimists)
    This is the bulk of the fan base. They saw the bright start, suffered through the injury apocalypse, and are still standing—just. “We’re building something—but we need to win eventually.”
  • Right Tail (The Believers)
    The Kool-Aid has been drunk. They’d follow Ange into a burning building if he told them it was about “bravery in possession.” They talk about “the long-term project” and quote his pressers like scripture. They still think finishing 17th with style is better than 4th with a low block.
But here’s the kicker: If we win against Man U. Ange becomes more than a manager—he becomes a myth. The man who brought swagger, serotonin, and silverware to N17. He will be Tottenham Royalty 😉
Fuck off.
 
Let me explain why Ange Postecoglou's season at Spurs looks suspiciously like a bell curve—and why, if he wins something, he may just ascend into Tottenham Royalty.

A bell curve (aka Gaussian distribution, for those still traumatised by Year 11 stats) is a way of visualising how opinions or performance typically cluster around a midpoint. Most people hover in the middle, while fewer cling to the extremes. It’s used in psychology, education and economics to make sense of distribution of things... such as opinions.

Mapped onto Spurs this year:
  • Left Tail (The Skeptics)
    These folks were never convinced. “Too naive,” “This isn’t the J-League, mate,” and “Where’s the defensive structure?” They roll their eyes when Ange talks about ‘courage’ and ‘identity’. They tweet things like “bring back Conteball.” Or "This is unacceptable"
  • Centre Mass (The Realists/Cautious Optimists)
    This is the bulk of the fan base. They saw the bright start, suffered through the injury apocalypse, and are still standing—just. “We’re building something—but we need to win eventually.”
  • Right Tail (The Believers)
    The Kool-Aid has been drunk. They’d follow Ange into a burning building if he told them it was about “bravery in possession.” They talk about “the long-term project” and quote his pressers like scripture. They still think finishing 17th with style is better than 4th with a low block.
But here’s the kicker: If we win against Man U. Ange becomes more than a manager—he becomes a myth. The man who brought swagger, serotonin, and silverware to N17. He will be Tottenham Royalty 😉

I'm sorry bro but this seems suspiciously GPTish. Even the formatting- you really typed out and took the time to format that?
 
We had a different starting 11 almost every week, with regular changes to back 4 happening days b4 kick off.

This means no time to prepare, no time to organise and less ability to play a structured, controlled system.

What you have prepared for in training with Van De Ven doesn't work with Ben Davies.

Bissouma can drop back and pick up the ball under pressure, Bergvall can't.

Johnson can ghost defenders and find space in the box, Kulu is better in tight spaces.

In these situations, the experience of the players on the pitch is the most important factor. Experienced players can adapt and will have better judgement, especially when it comes to taking risk and reading the game.

I think Ange has been a stubborn and poor manager for most of the season, and that we now look like a more athletic Dyche Burnley, but I will give credit to Ange for doing something to improve from a badly dysfunctional mess to a slightly more tactically organized bludgeoning operation.

It'll be cool if we win this cup- a much easier to win cup than even carabao- but it still won't make me feel significantly improved from our horrific 16th place league finish this season. I'm starting not to care more, and take it all less seriously than before, now that we are become cup team again 😂
 
Let me explain why Ange Postecoglou's season at Spurs looks suspiciously like a bell curve—and why, if he wins something, he may just ascend into Tottenham Royalty.

A bell curve (aka Gaussian distribution, for those still traumatised by Year 11 stats) is a way of visualising how opinions or performance typically cluster around a midpoint. Most people hover in the middle, while fewer cling to the extremes. It’s used in psychology, education and economics to make sense of distribution of things... such as opinions.

Mapped onto Spurs this year:
  • Left Tail (The Skeptics)
    These folks were never convinced. “Too naive,” “This isn’t the J-League, mate,” and “Where’s the defensive structure?” They roll their eyes when Ange talks about ‘courage’ and ‘identity’. They tweet things like “bring back Conteball.” Or "This is unacceptable"
  • Centre Mass (The Realists/Cautious Optimists)
    This is the bulk of the fan base. They saw the bright start, suffered through the injury apocalypse, and are still standing—just. “We’re building something—but we need to win eventually.”
  • Right Tail (The Believers)
    The Kool-Aid has been drunk. They’d follow Ange into a burning building if he told them it was about “bravery in possession.” They talk about “the long-term project” and quote his pressers like scripture. They still think finishing 17th with style is better than 4th with a low block.
But here’s the kicker: If we win against Man U. Ange becomes more than a manager—he becomes a myth. The man who brought swagger, serotonin, and silverware to N17. He will be Tottenham Royalty 😉
AI has a lot to answer for.
 
His tactics were actually spot on against Bodo. Sometimes we do better when we overly respect the opposition. It's just hard to know if our team is going to lose by 2+ goals or win by 2+ goals and generally we lose except for Europe.

My point is I still don't get how we can be randomly tactically perfect in a small percentage of games and not the vast majority, from a defensive point of view, at least in the league.

It’s fucking infuriating. Maybe he prepares better for some games than others? In which case that’s not good enough.

We can play like that every week, so why don’t we? It’s a small sample size but it’s there.
 
It’s fucking infuriating. Maybe he prepares better for some games than others? In which case that’s not good enough.

We can play like that every week, so why don’t we? It’s a small sample size but it’s there.
We’re not playing Bodo every week. Truth is we’ve played very average teams through the EL. He’s been comfortable at that level. He could probably manage Frankfurt and Bodo. Utd will be far tougher unfortunately.
 
I just don't get why in Europe we see the two holding midfielders in a 4231 and yet never in the PL - it's always the 433 that leaves our defence exposed and our striker isolated.

If he'd played the EL tactic all season I suspect he'd still have a job in September.
 
He does a good speech. If he had a mate that could chip in with tactics he'd be cooking.


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I really like that he gives credits to those who are injured and/or stayed back at home, even Forster.

Also see that when he speaks, the boys were really silent. Either he's a fucking dictator, or the lads are truly respecting him so much that nobody who's not a player or staff would know. I hope it's more of the latter.

It's both come on Ange and COYS till 21 May now for me.
 
Done a couple of things yesterday that has made him go up in my estimation.
1. Played a long ball game - which was the right way to play on that pitch. Hey presto a solid defence.
2. Put Wenger back in his box. His remark about dropping the word ‘Spurs’ into any conversation was so true
 
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