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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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Raf said:
Leverkusen went invincible his first season, so it's not really a guarantee is it.

If he goes to a big club its also a guarantee that he will eventually win trophies. Big players dont go to Italy anymore and Real or Barca are a guarantee to win trophies as well.
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leverkusen went invincible and its the worst bayern side in a decade. theyve paid 100m to win the CL not to win their 11th league title in 11 years, the move was a flop for bayern. hes effectively diluted his spurs and premier league legacy for a bundesliga title that no one really respects..all because everyone giving him stick about being trophyless. serie A isnt what it was in the 90s but still holds far more prestige than a bundesliga title.

madrid havent won anything this year and to be honest the way barca are looking it looks like they could be potless next year too. too much ego in that side now and the balance is off.

hes potentially given up the all time leading goal scorer in the toughest league in the world to say he 'helped' bayern win their 11th league title in 12 years....shit tradeoff if you ask me.
 
daveyboy88 said:
leverkusen went invincible and its the worst bayern side in a decade. theyve paid 100m to win the CL not to win their 11th league title in 11 years, the move was a flop for bayern. hes effectively diluted his spurs and premier league legacy for a bundesliga title that no one really respects..all because everyone giving him stick about being trophyless. serie A isnt what it was in the 90s but still holds far more prestige than a bundesliga title.

madrid havent won anything this year and to be honest the way barca are looking it looks like they could be potless next year too. too much ego in that side now and the balance is off.

hes potentially given up the all time leading goal scorer in the toughest league in the world to say he 'helped' bayern win their 11th league title in 12 years....shit tradeoff if you ask me.
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Would you say the same about Lewandowski when he went to Bayern?
 
daveyboy88 said:
they bought him to actually win the league....he was winning it with dortmund lol.

that signing made bayern a genuine european force for a decade. should have won the CL more times with him...you can not say that signing was not a huge success.
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It took him 5 years to win the CL with Bayern. They were already a force before he was signed.

How do you know Kane won't win the CL with Bayern in the future? They already made it to the semis with him.
 
Raf said:
Would you say the same about Lewandowski when he went to Bayern?
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When Lewy came in 14/15 Robben had as many goals in the Bundesliga as he did with 800 minutes less in his first season... But he came at a different time of his career and at Bayern the two stars were still Robben and Ribery and Müller with a wild card. Lewy's role grew with the decline and injuries of the two old guys in the next two to three years.

Kane came in a different period of the club and already after a decline the club took in the recent years. Müller and Neuer are/were the last ones from that dominating years - and their role got smaller now. If the new players are as successful in the long run is questionable even if the name and talent sound good. Even the key players in the sextuple 2020 with Flick apart from Müller and Neuer with Alaba, Boateng, Lewy and Thiago are gone.

Dortmund in 11/12 beat Bayern with a new point record of 81 points that we beat in various seasons in the coming years - but in the last years we had less and less points. This year is the first time in years that we can get 82 points again when we win the last match.
 
Raf said:
It took him 5 years to win the CL with Bayern. They were already a force before he was signed.

How do you know Kane won't win the CL with Bayern in the future? They already made it to the semis with him.
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they won the league once in four years before he signed so not much of a force.

bayern are a million miles off the quality they were when they had lewandowski. they got eric dier starting games at CB lol. they are a decent side, but i doubt the real top sides in europe fear them like they did 5 years ago.

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theres 7 clubs that would not fear a knockout tie against bayern today....i think most clubs in the CL knockout stage would want the tie, they are very beatable today.

put us in it next year and give us a competent manager and a decent window and id fancy our chances too!
 
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daveyboy88 said:
they won the league once in four years before he signed so not much of a force.

bayern are a million miles off the quality they were when they had lewandowski. they got eric dier starting games at CB lol. they are a decent side, but i doubt the real top sides in europe fear them like they did 5 years ago.

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theres 7 clubs that would not fear a knockout tie against bayern today....i think most clubs in the CL knockout stage would want the tie, they are very beatable today.
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I think Bayern have some great quality in the middle but they are short elite 2 CB’s and a good linking mobile attacker (Wirtz), should they sign 3-4 elite players in the summer they will be decent in the CL. Their wingers like Musiala are decent but they are often poor team players, amount of times I watch Bayern attackers behave selfish is unreal and this was with Tuchel as well.
 
daveyboy88 said:
they won the league once in four years before he signed so not much of a force.

bayern are a million miles off the quality they were when they had lewandowski. they got eric dier starting games at CB lol. they are a decent side, but i doubt the real top sides in europe fear them like they did 5 years ago.
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Bayern had just won the bundesliga by 19 points when he signed for them in 2014 and by 25 points the season before and had won the CL that season in 12/13.

Sounds like Lewandowski took the easy way out by going there tbh.
 
Raf said:
Bayern had just won the bundesliga by 19 points when he signed for them in 2014 and by 25 points the season before and had won the CL that season in 12/13.

Sounds like Lewandowski took the easy way out by going there tbh.
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hed already won trophies before going. his move to bayern made them an absolute force, has kanes done the same?

everyone knows kanes main purpose for going there was to win trophies as he was labeled a trophy dodger. 1 league title in two years is poor for them going off the last decade.
 
daveyboy88 said:
hed already won trophies before going. his move to bayern made them an absolute force, has kanes done the same?

everyone knows kanes main purpose for going there was to win trophies as he was labeled a trophy dodger. 1 league title in two years is poor for them going off the last decade.
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That is wrong. Bayern were already a force. But he somewhat in combination with his understanding with Müller replaced the dependence on Robben and Ribery when they were declining. But Bayern declined in the next season after Pep went because of the choice of the managers. Ancelotti matches great to Real Madrid - but was a bad choice for Bayern...
 
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