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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Just watching that now.

He speaks well when he’s not spiky post loss, shame it hasn’t worked out.
“If you’re so dismissive of everything I have done, and I am here (in the Europa league final) then it doesn’t say much for the competition I’m in, either I’m doing something significant and I’ve earned the right, or this isn’t that big a deal anyway because anybody could do it.”

That statement is, frankly, laughable and reveals the exact kind of warped logic that makes Ange so frustrating for a lot of fans.

You can’t measure the quality of a manager solely by reaching one European final while actively presiding over a complete collapse in the league. We are 17th in the Premier League ffs and even if we weren’t, the idea that his presence in a cup final somehow invalidates any criticism is nonsense.

Plenty of managers have fluked cup runs while struggling domestically it’s the nature of knockout football. One-off games, favourable draws, or players turning up on the night don’t suddenly make you a managerial genius.

By Ange’s logic, if he gets to a final, his methods are beyond criticism and he deserves to be there but where’s that logic when we’re losing to teams we should be beating every week in the league?

It’s also incredibly arrogant (shock) he’s basically saying: “If I’m in a final, it must mean I’m brilliant, otherwise the final doesn’t mean much and the competition must be shit”

That’s not leadership; that’s a man trying to spin one success to cover for months of mediocrity. It’s insecurity masquerading as confidence, and it doesn’t wash imo.

By that logic, Roberto Di Matteo must have been a world-class manager because he won Chelsea the Champions League or the champions league can’t be that great of a competition? Must be really easy to win it ey? 😂.

Maybe, just maybe, finals don’t always reflect managerial greatness…
 
“If you’re so dismissive of everything I have done, and I am here (in the Europa league final) then it doesn’t say much for the competition I’m in, either I’m doing something significant and I’ve earned the right, or this isn’t that big a deal anyway because anybody could do it.”

That statement is, frankly, laughable and reveals the exact kind of warped logic that makes Ange so frustrating for a lot of fans.

You can’t measure the quality of a manager solely by reaching one European final while actively presiding over a complete collapse in the league. We are 17th in the Premier League ffs and even if we weren’t, the idea that his presence in a cup final somehow invalidates any criticism is nonsense.

Plenty of managers have fluked cup runs while struggling domestically it’s the nature of knockout football. One-off games, favourable draws, or players turning up on the night don’t suddenly make you a managerial genius.

By Ange’s logic, if he gets to a final, his methods are beyond criticism and he deserves to be there but where’s that logic when we’re losing to teams we should be beating every week in the league?

It’s also incredibly arrogant (shock) he’s basically saying: “If I’m in a final, it must mean I’m brilliant, otherwise the final doesn’t mean much and the competition must be shit”

That’s not leadership; that’s a man trying to spin one success to cover for months of mediocrity. It’s insecurity masquerading as confidence, and it doesn’t wash imo.

By that logic, Roberto Di Matteo must have been a world-class manager because he won Chelsea the Champions League or the champions league can’t be that great of a competition? Must be really easy to win it ey? 😂.

Maybe, just maybe, finals don’t always reflect managerial greatness…
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting he stays!! 😂
 
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting he stays!! 😂
Oh I know mate, I just quoted because you had the video 🤣, was just spilling my thoughts into the void basically.

I do agree he definitely comes across less spiky in those sit-down interviews, probably because the pressure’s dialled down. But even then, the arrogance still seeps through.

Take his post-match speech after the semi-final, for example. He opens with, “Right, shush. I’ve been in this game a long time, I’m very experienced, I’ve experienced it all.” Honestly, it’s the kind of self-important preamble that just makes me roll my eyes, massively insecure person imo.
 
Lol mate I've been posting on spurs forums for over 20 years, written for Spurs online mags, you ha e no clue who I am.
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“If you’re so dismissive of everything I have done, and I am here (in the Europa league final) then it doesn’t say much for the competition I’m in, either I’m doing something significant and I’ve earned the right, or this isn’t that big a deal anyway because anybody could do it.”

That statement is, frankly, laughable and reveals the exact kind of warped logic that makes Ange so frustrating for a lot of fans.

You can’t measure the quality of a manager solely by reaching one European final while actively presiding over a complete collapse in the league. We are 17th in the Premier League ffs and even if we weren’t, the idea that his presence in a cup final somehow invalidates any criticism is nonsense.

Plenty of managers have fluked cup runs while struggling domestically it’s the nature of knockout football. One-off games, favourable draws, or players turning up on the night don’t suddenly make you a managerial genius.

By Ange’s logic, if he gets to a final, his methods are beyond criticism and he deserves to be there but where’s that logic when we’re losing to teams we should be beating every week in the league?

It’s also incredibly arrogant (shock) he’s basically saying: “If I’m in a final, it must mean I’m brilliant, otherwise the final doesn’t mean much and the competition must be shit”

That’s not leadership; that’s a man trying to spin one success to cover for months of mediocrity. It’s insecurity masquerading as confidence, and it doesn’t wash imo.

By that logic, Roberto Di Matteo must have been a world-class manager because he won Chelsea the Champions League or the champions league can’t be that great of a competition? Must be really easy to win it ey? 😂.

Maybe, just maybe, finals don’t always reflect managerial greatness…
Well said. He's a defensive, egotistical, halfwit, now grasping at what is an achievement, but a fairly modest one.

If we win then it's absolutely great:

- trophy monkey off our backs (for a few years!)
- credibility enhanced with potential recruits
- great for player morale and retention
- CL next season

But in response to Ange's comments, yes the competition is a weak one. Every team bar two have been Champo / League One / League Two level. Those two are Gala and EF, who are both lower half PL level.

And that quality is reflected in the wage bills and value of players of these clubs. Someone here posted yesterday that Spurs have a squad value higher than all our opponents in the knock-out rounds combined. Says it all Ange.
 
Oh I know mate, I just quoted because you had the video 🤣, was just spilling my thoughts into the void basically.

I do agree he definitely comes across less spiky in those sit-down interviews, probably because the pressure’s dialled down. But even then, the arrogance still seeps through.

Take his post-match speech after the semi-final, for example. He opens with, “Right, shush. I’ve been in this game a long time, I’m very experienced, I’ve experienced it all.” Honestly, it’s the kind of self-important preamble that just makes me roll my eyes, massively insecure person imo.
I actually could barely believe that was what he came out with in the changing room post Bodo. Watched it on Insta. Hugely disappointed in him for that tbh. Even with the low opinion I had of him, I still thought he could put the needy, self-obsessed Ange to the side for one moment and celebrate the team's achievement with some well chosen words. But no, he couldn;t.
 
But in response to Ange's comments, yes the competition is a weak one. Every team bar two have been Champo / League One / League Two level. Those two are Gala and EF, who are both lower half PL level.

Bodo beat Porto, Lazio, Olympiacos, Twente, Besiktas to reach the Europa semis. All decent teams and Bodo deserve credit where its due.

To suggest those teams are Champo/League one quality is laughable.

The Premier league's over inflated wages aren't an induction of quality, they are reflective of TV rights money from the most watched league in the world.

If the Europa League is so easy, why have only 2 english teams won it in the past 20 years?
 
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