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Management Ange Postecoglou

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CL is a real competition compared to EL. I agree with you. EL is lower grade comp than even english league cup (because you eventually play real prem heavyweights). 2019 was a much bigger footballing achievement than the EL cup we won yesterday, no question about it.

Glad everyone is having good time, but they shouldn’t get carried away, and should try to maintain some perspective.

Champions of Europe? Champions of Europe Junior League is what it really is. I don’t think we beat a single CL team all season.

Europa League is far above the League Cup.

That's not up for debate, frankly. Anyone who wants to talk down our achievement last night can fuck themselves with a rusty poker and get the fuck off this forum.

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If playing in the CL is utter nonsense why is CL footy one of the demands of quality targets then?
CL is the biggest stage in football outside of the WC play-offs. Just ask any (top) player. It's not just a financial bonus for players but a stage where they can highlight and spotlight their talent.

And the fact that we’re in the Cl next season should be good for our recruitment

Winning the CL is the ultimate for any side surely
 
Great win, huge for the club to get the monkey off its back, but I don't want him here next season nor believe in him as a coach long term. That is my opinion. I am aware other people disagree and will be caught up in the emotions of last night and that is fine.

For me, nothing changed in that game in terms of his future. That wasn't an amazingly coached team to be excited about for the future, it was a side putting in a one off defensive performance and fighting for its life against another side who severely lacked quality. Ange can have credit for inspiring that but if/when we stick with him I expect it to end in tears.
 
Ultimately, the safest play for Levy now imo is to retain him. If he sacks Ange and results don’t improve, the backlash will be severe, especially considering the players are behind him and he has just won us a major trophy.

But if he keeps him on, gives him the opportunity to prove himself at the start of next season, and things still unravel over those first 10 games, then Levy has a far cleaner exit. At that point, no one can argue with the decision, and Ange still walks away with credit for breaking the trophy drought and delivering a European title.

The only issue is, if Levy is unsure about him that will impact our transfers I imagine, which probably won’t help matters in general.
 
if you can genuinely say to yourself that you felt the team accomplished more after 2019 than last night, then fair fucks. I would personally say that’s a loser mentality, but I guess that’s just my wrong opinion.

Its not a loser mentality, its objectivity.

To get to the final of the CL is extremely difficult. Teams who have won the europa league recently include Frankfurt, Sevilla, Villareal, this level of United side. You don't have to be elite to win it, you don't have to be even close. To win the CL you have to be elite, one of the very top teams in Europe. To get there we beat Manchester City, Dortmund and an amazing Ajax side after navigating Inter and Barca in a groups. It was by far a bigger achievement. Teams who win the EL don't even get out of CL groups- regularly.

Not sure in what world recognising that the elite competition is by a huge magnitude much more difficult equates to a loser mentality. I assume Chelsea winning the conference league will be a bigger achievement than us reaching a champions league final too.
 
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You clowns know what to do, shut up and sign the form.

Don't bother replying to this post, just take the L and keep it moving

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Everyone on here is surely so happy that we won last night. The last 30 mins were so unbearably tense and for once the footballing gods were kind to us. However let’s not pretend that Postecoglou walks on water. Obviously there is humour in your post but calling people clowns who were rightfully questioning Ange this season is a bit daft. Let’s hope that if he stays next season that 7 or 8 games in you can continue to be smug and are not the one shown to be a clown. Time will tell
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Everyone on here is surely so happy that we won last night. The last 30 mins were so unbearably tense and for once the footballing gods were kind to us. However let’s not pretend that Postecoglou walks on water. Obviously there is humour in your post but calling people clowns who were rightfully questioning Ange this season is a bit daft. Let’s hope that if he stays next season that 7 or 8 games in you can continue to be smug and are not the one shown to be a clown. Time will tell
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But you weren't tagged into this post lol
 
It was much more of an achievement to bring Spurs to the CL final in 2019 even if they lost (against a prime Liverpool team) than winning the EL (or any domestic cup).
If winning the EL didn't include getting a spot in the CL it would not have been valued as much as it was. And UEFA had to include that CL-spot price for clubs to take the competition serious.
Losing 21 EPL such a pathetic way is not the sign of a winning team culture to be honest. But that's me.
That's Woolwich mentality right there.

Runner up is first loser.

It's always better to win a cup (any cup) over losing in a final or winning the top four trophy.
We did that for the best part of a decade and were still regarded as the meme club.

Our season has been better than Arsenals. We both qualified for CL and we won a trophy they didn't. Full stop. End of chat.
 
Its not a loser mentality, its objectivity.

To get to the final of the CL is extremely difficult. Teams who have won the europa league recently include Frankfurt, Sevilla, Villareal, this level of United side. You don't have to be elite to win it, you don't have to be even close. To win the CL you have to be elite, one of the very top teams in Europe. To get there we beat Manchester City, Dortmund and an amazing Ajax side after navigating Inter and Barca in a groups. It was by far a bigger achievement. Teams who win the EL don't even get out of CL groups- regularly.

Not sure in what world recognising that the elite competition is by a huge magnitude much more difficult equates to a loser mentality. I assume Chelsea winning the conference league will be a bigger achievement than us reaching a champions league final too.
I loved the journey, and the journey was impressive (and will never forget Amsterdam), but winning last night was objectively better and more impressive than losing to Liverpool.
 
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