I don’t think he sacked off the league in Jan like he claims. I think that that is a clever smokescreen by Ange to excuse our terrible league campaign. I cannot imagine Levy would let him deliberately lose league places that would have cost us pl prize money on the gamble that we would win the Europa League.
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OK but are we going to pretend Palace are contending on the same playing field with regards to resources, then? Surely we should be much better set up to contend with 2 games a week than a side like Palace? Are we going to pretend that everything Ange does with Spurs and everything Glasner does with Palace is exactly like-for-like? Surely you get why that's silly?
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We have played 59 games this season
Palace have played 47
Im not the one being silly
Glassner did an amazing job winning the FA cup - but its not the same as managing a run in the Europa, with midweek games trying to balance the squad through a mountain of injuries.
both are great achievements, but glassner did have an easier job managing his first team in the FA Cup and because of its schedule could put out strongest 11 week in week out.
I have to say I have been Ange out for a while - the league form has been utterly appalling however, I don't think Levy can sack a Manager who has just won the EL trophy. If it was mutual agreement and AP walked off into the sunset then it could happen but he seems to want to stay.
If it was for someone like Silva, Glasner or Frank it would be suicide imho and they would be in a losing position off the bat.
Theres one thing I don't get about Ange and our league form. Why on earth hasn't he tried to tactically change at any point in the league when this has worked in big games in cup comps - I just cannot fathom why he hasnt?
With 4 or 5 first 11 players out why not try it then?
Even in game changes to keep the FBs home when leading - I just cannot get my head around it.
If it was for someone like Silva, Glasner or Frank it would be suicide imho and they would be in a losing position off the bat.
Theres one thing I don't get about Ange and our league form. Why on earth hasn't he tried to tactically change at any point in the league when this has worked in big games in cup comps - I just cannot fathom why he hasnt?
With 4 or 5 first 11 players out why not try it then?
Even in game changes to keep the FBs home when leading - I just cannot get my head around it.
Absolutely no one in the media gave us a chance.
It was a foregone conclusion in their minds!
Fuckers!
Good post Hulkster but I'm sure our new appointments have been planning for an EL win to upset the apple cart.
Wait for a Summer announcement that he makes saying he has received an offer from Brisbane Roar he can't turn down and our board reluctantly agrees to release him
This conversation is frankly ridiculous, and boring now. Palace beat 2 better sides in City and Villa than we had to face throughout the whole EL, you can talk about 12 extra games but look at the standard of half those sides, Bodo x2, Rangers, Qarabag, Ferencvaros, AZ Alkmaar x3, Elfsborg, if you're telling me the side with the 9th highest revenue in the world shouldn't be well equipped to batter those sides with a 2nd string side and stay competitive in the league on the weekend you're fucking dreaming, Villa manage it with half our resources, Glasner's won the same cup as Ange at a team with 1/5th the resources, and didn't tank the league to do so. He told us all he was chuffed with his summer window, he's headhunted half the players, it was his responsibility to balance the competitions and he failed to do so. I don't know how people aren't angry that he's saying we've been going through the motions in the league since january considering the only actual stiff opposition we came up against in the EL through to the final was Frankfurt, and we beat them with fucking Conteball.
Yes, what Ange is saying about some league and cup distinction in that regard doesn't make any sense. There are differences between the two of course, but it's obviously ridiculous to imply it's possible to play one way in a cup and not possible to play that way in the league. at least he seems to be implying that - it's quite hard to tell what he means, and I don't think he knows either.
It’s an open secret that Ange sets out the playing philosophy and then looks for his coaching team to instil this in the players.
Do you think a scenario where Ange stays in post, but there are whole scale changes made in the back room staff and calibre of assistant coaches, be considered as an alternative to the status quo or a completely fresh start?
Do you think a scenario where Ange stays in post, but there are whole scale changes made in the back room staff and calibre of assistant coaches, be considered as an alternative to the status quo or a completely fresh start?
I hope Levy chooses the first option.
As much as people over-egg the pudding with this, but Ramos did have his strike partnership picked apart at the end of the window. We didn't just have Frazier Campbell, but we didn't replace Berba and Keane until Redknapp brought in Defoe (?) and Keane.
Granted, Redknapp proved the squad wasn't so bad, and I think a huge part of Ramos' downfall was because he'd lost the squad with the ketchup rules, lack of english etc.
I think Ange is a different scenario to Ramos, AVB, and Poch in the "we should have binned them in the pre-season"
'looks like Ange has his Captain's vote, most of the squad seem to be fully behind him tbf, including Maddison who supposedly hated him according to someone.
I still think i'd take Xavi right now though, Ange can walk away as a Legend rather than be on rounds of abuse again next season.
But if the squad harmony is so strong right now then i doubt there's much Levy can do except let him continue.
In that case i'd maybe suggest new talent on the coaching team, ideally mason get's a job in the summer and we can bring in some pretty adept
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Lmao, 2 whole messages. What cunts multi are you?
‘Destroyed’ - it’s the same bullshit people have been saying all season. Ange is the man to lead us blah blah. 17th in the fucking premier league.
You guys are too thick to argue with, I would honestly rather debate philosophy with my cat.
It will be interesting on how the club move with this, I don't think you can sack him just to hire a Frank or Iraola or Silva, I think you genuinely need a big name like Xavi so you can justify the sacking.
For Ange to stay he will have to convince Paratici that he will not play the same brainless, reckless football in the league next season. Anyone with any understanding of football can see that it doesn’t work. Even Ange threw it all in the bin to try and win the EL.
Ange and his coaches lack of elite experience will always make me nervous but if he is willing to abandon Angeball and focus on the basics, I’d feel slightly more comfortable about him staying. It’s not ideal to have a 60 year old who is still learning the ropes at this level but it would be something to cling on to. If his pitch to Paratici is just Angeball with a couple of more experienced players, then he can be shown the door.
Ange and his coaches lack of elite experience will always make me nervous but if he is willing to abandon Angeball and focus on the basics, I’d feel slightly more comfortable about him staying. It’s not ideal to have a 60 year old who is still learning the ropes at this level but it would be something to cling on to. If his pitch to Paratici is just Angeball with a couple of more experienced players, then he can be shown the door.
Xavi without doubt is a big name as a player, but if you take that away surely from a management perspective the other three are much more experienced?