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Management Ange Postecoglou

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He tried to win the Caraboa Cup but we couldn't beat Liverpool over the two legs. There's no point pretending otherwise like he only wanted the Europa League. If we'd have met Liverpool in the Europa League we most likely wouldn't have won that either.

Luckily for us LFC we’re playing in a different casino .

You can only beat who’s in front of you in knock-out football; we did that. And won a European trophy fir the first time in 41 years .

What exactly is your problem accepting that fact ?
 
I’d give you a proper reply but it’s not appropriate to make fun of mentally disabled people.


Look I’m glad about winning a trophy and REALLY glad about how it made a lot of Spurs fans- people I like- feel better. That is genuinely awesome.

I just am a severe realist and cannot pretend it was more of an accomplishment than it was.

I am also not someone who cares about “trophies”- I like it when the team is the best or close to it. I enjoy watching great sporting talent. Winning EL with this oppo, in that fashion is just not particularly satisfying for me. I really am genuinely glad people feel good about the win, and I’m resigned to watching another season of Ange ball.
Did you watch that parade? I’m afraid not even unbeaten seasons at home give you that. We won a significant trophy and it’s not just made ppl feel better - it’s given them their best ever Spurs memories.

You‘re saying everything I swore blind with up until 48 hours ago. But football is surely romance as well.

As ppl have said, it’s a very tricky decision Levy has now.
 
The disaster that it will be next season is going to not only be on the club for their sentimentality, but some of our fans.

You’d have sacked him for a mid tablist who would have prioritized finishing top 8 over the Europa.


We wouldn’t be having the fucking time of our lives if the club did what you think is the smart thing to do.

Then you told us we’d lose to Frankfurt because they were half competent or some weak boy drivel like that.

Give it a rest, you were wrong.
 
Can't anyone hold two thoughts at once?

+Getting a trophy was great and euphoric.

+The last two years have been godawful, and if we hadn't won Wednesday Ange would already be sacked, and the decision would have 99% approval among the fan base.

He didn't become a different man in 24 hours. Winning this doesn't change the future prospects. The club didn't suddenly surge upward at the end of the season. We'd broken mast and rudder and were listing for months, before putting a performance together (more or less) on Wednesday that was good enough.

All odds are that the third year will be just like the first two, minus the trophy. We are not waltzing through road apples in the CL next year the way we did in Europa this year.

An average manager would be an upgrade so go get one. Ange is still a liability and we can't punt this chance to turn the club around.


Spot on.

Can anyone even remember when we last strung two or three good performances together under Ange?

I mean, yeah we won but the final was shocking quality. We aren't suddenly a team on the up. We don't look like we have a clue. We haven't improved. We simply got over the line in a major final. Monumental achievement, but completely seperate from where we are actually at as a team under Ange. We were largely average to poor in Europe this season, and beat a shocking United side, with the worst statistics in a final since Opta started counting.

What we did on Wednesday night has no bearing on what happens when we line up against top quality PL teams next season. It will in fact be even worse. We struggled massively in the PL last season and combining that with Europa. How do people think we will manage combining the PL with CL matches and quality opposition? It's going to be a fucking disaster.

New signings won't solve the problem when Ange's chosen way to play football is fundamentally broken.

Nobody has any answers to this, it's simply "Ange has to be given another season, we can't sack him after this"

It's based on nothing but emotion and vibes from Wednesday night.

People have given every excuse under the sun for why Ange failed in the PL, it was dogshit performance after dogshit performance, we looked totally uncoached and clueless week in week out.

We won a trophy playing utter crap football in a final, We finally won a trophy. Amazing, but anyone thinking we go again with him next season. Deep down, you know, it'll be exactly the same, a shit show, and we will waste the season.
 
I am hoping the terrible league form was him sacrificing it all for the Trophy.


You don't seriously believe that do you? That is Donald Trump-esque bullshitting from him.When Ange actually said that on Wedneday night I cringed. The guy is completely blagging it like he has all season. Results will pick up when injured players return, too many games, not enough games, every excuse under the sun.

I can't believe we have spurs fans actually buying the shit, that he threw the league for Europe and that explains all the abysmal results. Biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard. He's taking the fanbase for mugs.

it's Ange all over. He's a complete bullshitter. Fair fucks to him that he won a trophy for us, but if anyone seriously believes, Ange threw the league for Europe, it's nonsense. He's just saying that to make himself look good and like he had a plan.

At most he started focusing on Europe and forgot the league around April time, when we were in the Semi's. No way does that explain all the poor results from August to March.
 
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