They didn't give 100% for Ange
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Management Ange Postecoglou
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Ha, someone else spotted it..
Cunning old goat.
Paratici will be having none of it tho, like you say.
If we have anyone under our roof who won’t give 100% for a new manager, they should be sent out.
Footballers are professionals and may disagree with board decisions, but when training begins they will be there and do their jobs for riches and glory and love for one another. Especially with CL football waiting for them.
Big decision ahead from the board to be made.
I am afraid we won't be ruthless enough to sack him even when - in my humble opinion - we still should do it. Same pattern was applied already in the past when it comes to not getting rid of some players (took to long with Dele, Eriksen, Lloris, Davies should not be there as well etc). We are too nice in this area compared to our opponents.
Watched whole parade and i am still watching video's of ceremony when we got a cup. I am enjoying every moment, because I expect now we will sacrifice next season completely by keeping Ange.
I am afraid we won't be ruthless enough to sack him even when - in my humble opinion - we still should do it. Same pattern was applied already in the past when it comes to not getting rid of some players (took to long with Dele, Eriksen, Lloris, Davies should not be there as well etc). We are too nice in this area compared to our opponents.
Watched whole parade and i am still watching video's of ceremony when we got a cup. I am enjoying every moment, because I expect now we will sacrifice next season completely by keeping Ange.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
100%. The decision was taken weeks ago so I'll be shocked if they change their mind based on Wednesday.
It explains why Ange is saying what he is saying in public. Bit of a last attempt to influence the situation in his favour.
Sunday will be a celebatory atmosphere, and obviously the result won't matter, but it will bring people back down to earth with a bump if we lose. It will be a reminder that this is the club under Ange in the PL, constant defeats.
lol you must be new to the forum.
You are very naive.
Have we agreed on that all year long?
If the squad is so bad, maybe the manager who dragged them to a European trophy did a better job than the league results would indicate?
And I'm not just being snarky here, for me the most compelling case AGAINST Ange is that, and least when fit, he's got a pretty decent set of players to work with here, quite a bit better than what Jose and Conte had for most of their tenures.
Until he was on death's doorstep in the job and totally reversed two years of blathering on about all-out attack being what his late father would have wanted, he seemed pretty unable to convert good individual performers into team results on a stable, consistent basis.
Which is why I'd want answers on what the plan is going forward before I make any final decisions here. I know throwing the squad's hamstrings into a blender playing a suicidally high line every minute of every game is a bad idea. Is that still mandatory?
He's trying to keep his job. Mystery solved.
No rational person would ever disagree with you .
But :
Given the tidal-wave of emotion hitting this Club right now ; it would take the person who shot Bambi’s Mother to sack Ange now . Not impossible; but imagine the pressure the next poor sod would be under …
Incredible as it may seem: Ange has to stay ; to do otherwise would be a leap too far even for Danny Boy
Its funny
picture the scene
Levy calls Ange into his office for a meeting end of season.
Levy ( in pure former chairman Alan Sugar style)
" YOUR FIRED"
Big Ange responds to Levy
" WHAT For mate?
SO FOR WINNING A TROPHY
AND MAKING US CHAMPIONS IN A COMPETITION ( IN ELITE COMPETITIVE FOOTBALL)
I GET FIRED MATE,??????
I really think lines have been blurred
Pmsl no chance Ange gets sacked
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No he doesn't have to stay. It's just a fairytale outcome that has no objective reasoning behind it. It's an outcome based purely on emotion.
I know what you are saying, but Ange isn't getting sacked tonight after the parade, it will happen when things die down in a week or two.
He will leave on mutual terms. It will be carefully worded. "The club have today made the decision to mutually part ways with Ange Postecoglu. He has our utmost thanks for delivering one of the most special nights in our history, however the board feel that the league campaign didn't come close to meeting expectations and the club has decided a change is needed to give us the best possible chance of success in the coming season"
The club needs CL football and we aren't getting it in the league through Ange. And there is no Europa League to win next season. It's either win the CL or finish top 4/5.
I don't have a problem with that. I was just replying to a poster who reckons Postecoglou put all his eggs in the Europa League basket, when in fact he also had a go at winning the Carabao Cup, so his statement wasn't correct.
If Ange were to stay I struggle to see how the next EPL season would be any different. We’d still see the same poor training, the same lack of tactical awareness and presumably the same win/loss ratios. And we won’t win the Champions League.
So thanks Ange, but your time here is done.
So thanks Ange, but your time here is done.
99.999 % of his eggs in the Europa
League basket and a bit of that fluff you occasionally find stuck onto an egg put into the basket marked “ The Carabao Cup “ .
He knew what he was doing; and it worked out for him aka US .
What’s not to like ? ( Even if it’s with the benefit of hindsight) .
It’s revisionist to put it kindly.
Ange did not leave the season for dead until the semi final round of Europa.
He was playing whomever was available in the league and getting the same poor results with all of them.
He’s just ramping up crowds and trying to lobby to keep a job he can’t keep on his own merits
100%. we are soft when it comes to being ruthless and cutting people. this aint the business where being soft works out.
masons got a job he has no credentials for ffs, the club can be a complete charity case.
lets hope paratici does come back and hes made his mind up anyway.
hes positioned himself so that the club cant come out with that now.
really, what hes tried doing today should rile levy up, hes trying to have him over here.
levy needs to appoint a DOF and then say its the DOF's decision. theres no 'mutual agreement' with postecoglou desperately trying to gaslight simpletons. hes desperate to stay, he knows its back to pub football after this. not as many cameras and mics in his face then....
Good
He’d be nuts to go about things in the same way ; we all know that .
But given that he seems to have realised that’s there’s more than one way to play football AND from
what I can work out ; the players are with him ; why not give him a
chance ?
I know it sounds crazy; but life often is TBF .
He’d be nuts to go about things in the same way ; we all know that .
But given that he seems to have realised that’s there’s more than one way to play football AND from
what I can work out ; the players are with him ; why not give him a
chance ?
I know it sounds crazy; but life often is TBF .
Ange should stay because his 1 PPG is enough to keep us up? What kind of talk is this? Now of all times we should have aspirations, we are not the Spam, satisfied if we don’t go downEven 1ppg will be enough to keep us up next season
If Ange delivers more silverware in the shape of a league, FA cup or champions league hell even the super cup and good runs in the league and other cup competitions ill take it over your negativity all day long
