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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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By fought strongly, I mean full-strength teams. In the past we've seen managers throw competitions away (domestic cups) in favour of other competitions, but Ange has made a serious effort in all of them.

Atalanta won it last year...also finished 4th in Serie A and made the final of the Coppa Italia. The team they beat, Bayer Leverkusen, won the Bundesliga undefeated and German Cup. Villarreal finished 7th in La Liga the year they won it, Sevilla 4th the year before that, Chelsea 3rd in the PL in 2019, Atletico second in 2018...
We did get to a domestic cup semi final.

It isn't really a well-kept secret that Serie A is played at a relatively slow pace and isn't particularly competitive. Both of those things factor heavily. The PL is renown for being, basically, 38 games of intense fitness with no such thing as 'upsets' or 'surprise' results, such is the competition across at least 17 of the teams.

Maybe, just maybe cause their managers & players didn't openly sacrifice the league to win the EL (and save their rep).
I think the idea that the league was 'sacrificed' would be a poor excuse for just plain old crap league form and tactics. There's no evidence to support any intent. Only factor, really, has been injuries. Outside of that it's just naivety from Ange, and being consistent enough in game plan to be figured out on a weekly basis.


Ask Timo. Or refs/VAR.
Timo hasn't been thrown under the bus - he's been sleeping under it all season. Really like the guy - he comes across so nice - and wanted to keep him this season, but he's looked worse than Njie and Nkoudou ever did (which is a low).
I think you're conflating "blame" here for observation and tough love. He is supposed to be one of our highest paid and best players and has looked like an academy reject.

Bissouma said the exact same thing recently, in that he never blames the players for the defeats. Its night and day compared to Conte/Mourinho/Poch.
 
Rodgers bottled the Scotts Cup Final today.

Alfie Dorrington’s Aberdeen the winners

Easy to win the treble in Scotland though. Rodgers is a much better tactician than Ange

Rodgers won the treble in back to back seasons, this would have been the third time he'd achieved it in his career which makes it sound not so fucking hard after all doesn't it?

Maybe research things before you post. Might make you look less silly.
 
the fact you get into europa off the back of winning the FA cup tells you what order the trophies are in, in terms of prestige.

No it doesn't ... it tells you the premier league aren't going to be gifted another CL spot by the powers that be, and don't want to take away a spot from the league when the reality is that teams already in the CL usually win the FA cup anyway because teams like Liverpool and City are in the running for it.

Mate, they made CL a prize of the EL BECAUSE it lacked prestige and UEFA wanted to incentivise the competition more. This is like saying because conference league gives Europa it is bigger than the league cup, despite the fact the conference league is fucking pointless and so shit West Ham can be "european champions".
 
No it doesn't ... it tells you the premier league aren't going to be gifted another CL spot by the powers that be, and don't want to take away a spot from the league when the reality is that teams already in the CL usually win the FA cup anyway because teams like Liverpool and City are in the running for it.

Mate, they made CL a prize of the EL BECAUSE it lacked prestige and UEFA wanted to incentivise the competition more. This is like saying because conference league gives Europa it is bigger than the league cup, despite the fact the conference league is fucking pointless and so shit West Ham can be "european champions".
you have to win the FA cup to even qualify for the europa loool. its a nonsense debate. even when the FA cup actually had prestige 20 years ago and the big teams took it seriously, it still wasnt a better trophy to win than the eufa cup.

european leagues domestic cup winners literally get qualification to the europa league from winning their domestic cups loool its a no contest.
 
you have to win the FA cup to even qualify for the europa loool. its a nonsense debate. even when the FA cup actually had prestige 20 years ago and the big teams took it seriously, it still wasnt a better trophy to win than the eufa cup.

european leagues domestic cup winners literally get qualification to the europa league from winning their domestic cups loool its a no contest.

The big teams don't even get in to the europa league to see if they'll take it seriously, because they're all in the champions league.

When they do end up in it, it's mostly a "why the fuck are we here" from the fans and half arsed performances unless they're having another crap season and need to qualify for champions league.

You can literally get europa league qualification in the prem now from finishing what, 7th is it? Or lower? I can't even work it out anymore, we'll probably have Nottingham Forest in it next season and I wouldn't be fucking surprised if they win it, they'd be one of the top 5 favourites.
 
The big teams don't even get in to the europa league to see if they'll take it seriously, because they're all in the champions league.

When they do end up in it, it's mostly a "why the fuck are we here" from the fans and half arsed performances unless they're having another crap season and need to qualify for champions league.

You can literally get europa league qualification in the prem now from finishing what, 7th is it? Or lower? I can't even work it out anymore, we'll probably have Nottingham Forest in it next season and I wouldn't be fucking surprised if they win it, they'd be one of the top 5 favourites.

We get it mate, we’re shit. Europa League is shit, Ange is shit, Spurs are shit, we should all just be fucking miserable all of the time.
 
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