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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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TonySoprano said:
The money he gets for being sacked is probably a bigger factor in his thinking.

I think he’ll start next season.
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That doesn't really make sense though.

If we have to pay out for terminating his contract now.....then surely we'd have to pay out for terminating his contract 15 games into next season anyway wouldn't we?


Unless Levy feels that Ange will see out the remainder of his time left on his contract, then a payout is always going to happen.....it's just when it happens?

If he stays, then surely he won't survive the season.
 
Gmspurs said:
That doesn't really make sense though.

If we have to pay out for terminating his contract now.....then surely we'd have to pay out for terminating his contract 15 games into next season anyway wouldn't we?


Unless Levy feels that Ange will see out the remainder of his time left on his contract, then a payout is always going to happen.....it's just when it happens?

If he stays, then surely he won't survive the season.
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Neither will we...
 
2 years is a good point to end it at on a respectful note in my opinion.. Thanks for a phenomenal moment. He'll forever be part of our history But we need to think about whats best for the team from game 1 of next season and I don't think carrying on as is, is best for the team. None of this "oh he deserves to keep his job". There is no such thing as deserve, only what is best for the team..

It's good for the manager as well by the way. His reputation has flipped from being battered to now being on a high. He can take a break from a job that has obviously punished him emotionally at times this season, and come back fresh, as a coup elsewhere.

However, I think the club will be frightened stiff of making a change, and will have the attitude of "let's give him the first 10 games and see where we are". Which is the most cowardly and worst possible decision that helps neither club nor manager. That attitude of wait and see just doesn't work and will waste this potential launching pad we have. There can be no half measures.. You have to believe completely that he's the man going forward with almost no doubts... Or you have to make a change.
 
Anybody know what he said in his presser? "we controlled the game"..."too many injuries" etc rtc...it wasn't his fault of course..after all, he did win the EL single handedly...
 
The thing that I think occupies a bigger slice of Levy's thinking than it does in this thread is the degree to which Ange is trusted as someone who can turn transfer market funds into enhanced and durable squad value. That's almost an entirely separate domain from the results themselves.

And you can look at it cynically or as further proof of Ange being out of his depth, but I think it's reality that Levy regards Ange as someone who is going to ask for things that the club is able to get him, and is going to use whatever resources he has available to him in good faith. All of his predecessors were veritable factories for creating expensive, un-moveable deadwood, which is a huge financial drag on the club, even moreso in PSR-world. Ange has stopped that cycle, which will not have gone unnoticed.

If he keeps his job I bet that has more to do with it than some abiding faith in Angeball to deliver at the sharp end of the table.
 
Gmspurs said:
That doesn't really make sense though.

If we have to pay out for terminating his contract now.....then surely we'd have to pay out for terminating his contract 15 games into next season anyway wouldn't we?


Unless Levy feels that Ange will see out the remainder of his time left on his contract, then a payout is always going to happen.....it's just when it happens?

If he stays, then surely he won't survive the season.
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He can easily be put on garden leave. Aka sent home to do nothing whilst still getting paid until the end of his contract. And if he gets offered a new job that excites him then we break the contract at that point.

Potter sat out a lot of his Chelsea contract like this.
 
White Van Jan said:
I think Frank is the best option of all those in the PL that could be targets. His Champo teams were top scorers and as a nice to have he comes across v well. Seems v intelligent and maybe could manage Levy.

But really, finding an improvement would be the easiest thing.
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For the type of Football we want to play, I'd probably agree. There's an argument that Glasner would be the better choice, and I think that has merit, as Glasner has also shown the ability to alternate the way his side plays.

Then throw Xavi into the mix and I think you have 3 managers that could improve us significantly.

Looking at it through the lens of our Summer window though, I'd say that Xavi would likely be the bigger pull if we are looking to bring in a number of marquee signings. He's untested in the PL though, so possibly has the higher potential to go pear shaped.

There's merits to all 3, we can but hope that we manage to get this next appointment right along with the recruitment.
 
My belief in Ange rests on him calling for creative players in the window. To rely on Maddison, Son and Kulusevski is sucide with their injuries and inconsistent play. This team with a peak Eriksen type player does not finish out of the top 5.
 
Pirate217 said:
Whatever pressure Ange will be under if he stays, the new manager will feel x1000 of that if he goes with a trophy drought broken.

This is a much harder decision than most of us are giving credit for, also lets be honest if you've spent the last few months saying "he should go even if we win Europa" which even included me, we didnt trully believe he was going to win that trophy. When rumours of fractured dressing rooms and bust ups were emerging, we didnt think every one of those players would be willing to jump off that bus they were on for him today.

The Marco Silvas of the world are off limits for me now, at a minimum you have to have won a trophy to come in.
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Agree. If Ange is replaced, his successor at a minimum needs to be coming in with EPL experience AND having won a trophy. Only Oliver Glasner (Europa League and FA Cup) fits the bill, not even Poch fits this criteria.
 
THFC Falls Church VA said:
Agree. If Ange is replaced, his successor at a minimum needs to be coming in with EPL experience AND having won a trophy. Only Oliver Glasner (Europa League and FA Cup) fits the bill, not even Poch fits this criteria.
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