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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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The entire argument for keeping him seems to hinge on the planets aligning and us having a completely injury-free season whilst expertly targeting the 4 or 5 players we certainly need to make this fucking bizarre system of his work, and all 4 or 5 of those players working out perfectly and not flopping. It's just not going to happen, we cannot afford to go into a CL campaign with a manager so incapable of adapting to changing circumstances. We had to hear ourselves called "the Kane team" by fucking horse teeth under Poch back in the day but we could have Kane and Son out of that team and still go out and win games. In fact that is a stark contrast between Poch and Ange, Poch was making regular use of players like Chadli, Wimmer and Sigurdsson and made them look so good we sold them for significant profit. Can you name one "squad" player who has increased their value under Ange? Maybe Spence at a push?
 
Matt1882 said:
We're going to start next season with Ange. Large swathes of the stadium gave a frustratingly loud rendition of "oh Ange Postecoglou"
Having only attended PL matches this season, that's the first time I actually recall hearing it since....2023?


Listen to the radio. Watch the TV. Everyone has done a 180 now and are back to Ange in. Comments like "must stay" and "deserves another season" are rife.

As I said yesterday, the game was hard to use. We actually started quite well and I commented to friends that we looked quicker, sharper and were playing at least 20% more intensely.
But in the 2nd half we fell off a cliff. 2 of the goals were Archie Gray. I think he should go on loan next season. 1 was a lazy penalty. That penalty actually came because Udogie was so dead on his feet he gave the ball away in the LWF position and couldn't even walk back.
Last goal was a freak worldy.

It's kind of a shame in some regards we now have no games for him to prove one way or another.

We won the Europa League, but make no mistake, the entire top half of the premier league could do the same if they, like us, went as ball deep as we did and thew away 22 games.

He should go, but he won't IMO.
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Spurs fans and Postecoglou. The Stockholm syndrome writ large.
 
Hoddle2Waddle said:
You can't debate with Angefans anymore really ....

We play BADLY and LOSE with full squad and it's the players
We play BADLY and LOSE with a number of players injured and it's the INJURIES

I mean, why even bother debate???? I hope he just leave and take his fans with him.
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It's frustrating. All there is for it is to let him wreck another season and hope they eventually wise up. "But wasn't the parade wonderful."
 
The TV show analogy Postecoglou used was apt. I watched all 50 episodes of "Angeball" and while there was that one episode that ended with a parade that was nice, the rest of the series was terrible. Why can't they just cancel it?
 
dudu said:
Look man, you're preaching to the choir - online is a complete echo chamber and, this forum especially, not to be taken as any real pulse for the average fan.

I guess my point is that the silence from Levy etc is definitely due to the win and the feel good factor around this club at the moment, despite the league form but i don't think it is an indication of which way he is going to go.

We are in a Shrangedingers Box situation right now where he simultaneously both in charge and not in charge next season and i honestly don't know a single person who would put money on calling it either way
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I'd be fairly sure he's going to sack him tbh. He sacked Poch when most fans were still behind him.

I think he made his mind up months ago. The only reason he might stick with Ange is if we can't land his ideal candidates. Paratici wasn't brought back to work with Ange.
 
Whether he is or isn't going 100% isn't being decided in the coming days.

I don't like him as our manager but I can't deny the man deserves a holiday with his family and some peace from the media and frothing fans.

Just suck it up. Some of you sound like kids who want Christmas to come early.
 
dudu said:
Look man, you're preaching to the choir - online is a complete echo chamber and, this forum especially, not to be taken as any real pulse for the average fan.

I guess my point is that the silence from Levy etc is definitely due to the win and the feel good factor around this club at the moment, despite the league form but i don't think it is an indication of which way he is going to go.

We are in a Shrangedingers Box situation right now where he simultaneously both in charge and not in charge next season and i honestly don't know a single person who would put money on calling it either way
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If Ange is to start next season I think Levy would have publicly backed him by now
Ange also stated on Motd he would hopefully be back for the preseason
From that make what you will
Whatever happens we're Europa League champions, will be playing in the super Cup final, with CL to come
 
Matt1882 said:
Whether he is or isn't going 100% isn't being decided in the coming days.

I don't like him as our manager but I can't deny the man deserves a holiday with his family and some peace from the media and frothing fans.

Just suck it up. Some of you sound like kids who want Christmas to come early.
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My guess is he was told that whatever happened he'd get the rest of the season and then both parties would move on. But with his "oh, poor me, I won a trophy and don't know if I get to come back" routine he has outflanked Levy. We're stuck with Postecoglou until he finds some other job he wants. There will always be an excuse and the fans will never accept that he just isn't a very good manager.
 
Don Pedro said:
I'd be fairly sure he's going to sack him tbh. He sacked Poch when most fans were still behind him.

I think he made his mind up months ago. The only reason he might stick with Ange is if we can't land his ideal candidates. Paratici wasn't brought back to work with Ange.
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That wouldn't surprise me, but then again, neither would the opposite scenario
 
Whether he stays or goes, we can’t afford to dither. Levy just needs to make a decision asap. We’ve had a horrendous league season and need to rebuild - with Ange or another manager. Other clubs are already buying players and we don’t even know who our manager will be
 
Matt1882 said:
Whether he is or isn't going 100% isn't being decided in the coming days.

I don't like him as our manager but I can't deny the man deserves a holiday with his family and some peace from the media and frothing fans.

Just suck it up. Some of you sound like kids who want Christmas to come early.
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Personally, if i was him - i would prefer to know whether my holidays are just couple weeks or permanent :)
 
Don Pedro said:
Agree on al your points and yes there is a big correlation between match going fans and online. I just think online can create a false narrative sometimes.

I don't agree with too much fan power either. I think Man United is suffering because they've spent the last 10 years trying to please their fans by making short term signings. Falcao, Di Maria, Ibrahimovic, Pogba, Varane, Ronaldo, Casemiro, De ligt, Ugarte were all signings driven by the fans. The Ronaldo one in particular which actually destroyed the rebuild Ole had started. Sometimes the unpopular decision is the best long term decision for the club.
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It's a tough one because the supporters are right on some important things, such as where the new stadium ought to be, and they ought to protest about that. But I agree you should not be buying players based on social media trends or sacking managers because of something other than reviewing their performance and results at the end of the season.
 
HyNdZee said:
It's a tough one because the supporters are right on some important things, such as where the new stadium ought to be, and they ought to protest about that. But I agree you should not be buying players based on social media trends or sacking managers because of something other than reviewing their performance and results at the end of the season.
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Like it or not. He's staying.
 
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