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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Harry Vaginola said:
‘mistakes in the window’ is just blaming the players and the board. and i didn’t see any plan with his new sitting deep strategy. just two lines of 5 with a bunch of headless chickens
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Tbf he blamed himself in that as well.

It's clear the mistakes were he wanted us to focus on signing younger players and we did that. He believed younger players were quicker to adopting to the system and whilst that's true he failed to understand (or fully appreciate) that there is a humongous downside to only focusing on young players as evidenced this season.

"headless chickens" hmmmm yeh ok mate I don't agree. We deserved the wins against Bodo, Frankfurt and United...they did the square root of fuck all. Mourinho won the league with Chavksi doing this exact thing where he limited the opposition to next to nothing whilst grabbing a goal or two.

I'm not Ange in btw. I would prefer we got one of Xavi, Glasner or Emery now with us winning something and getting into the CL but this hater nature by a lot is over the top ffs. He won us a cup after telling us he would and is still getting pelter. Same with Johnson, scoring 18 goals from a wide position and still getting "yeh but blah blah". I hate that kind of mentality irrespective of who it's directed at (Johnson who I rate, Ange who I don't rate).
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
You support Spurs you have every right to enjoy it. I'm never forgetting it. But he's a clueless manager horribly out of his depth haven't seen a thing to change my mind about it. Unlike the Dudu talkers who are in his personality cult I've seen us win trophies under joke coaches before, it's not as unique as they want you to think Graham, Ramos , no one at Spurs recalls them fondly. Ange will be just as soon forgotten. Chavs don't sing for Demateo and he won them a ECL.

Happily I think he's gone and hopefully he takes the cult off to Olympiakos with him. He's mugged off no one with an actual brain about EPL level football.
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🎯
 
Deuterz said:
We finished 17th?? On 38 points ?????

Fuck me he’s not a prophet because he predicted we would win something and we did. He threw the rest of the season away to focus hard on what he knew was by far the easiest thing to win because the calibre of opposition is incredibly low compared to the Prem.

‘Delivers’ - guy won a trophy but football has been shocking for a year and a half and we’ve seen our worst league season in forever. He hasn’t delivered shit. The EL win gets him a thank you and a goodbye cheque.
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omg.
 
TonySoprano said:
The bad far outweighs the good. The problem is we so rarely win a trophy our fans can’t be objective.

If Woolwich or Chavs had this exact same season we’d be fucking slaughtering them for even considering keeping a manager with this record over 2 years. But when it’s us, we think oh Ange won a trophy, it’s such a fucking miracle let’s ignore the evidence and keep him.
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Chavs have owners who will spend and buy players until shit sticks.

Woolwich have ambitious owners.

We have ENIC. A property company with a football club attached to it. Perhaps this is the only winning model under them, throw the league and everything to win a cup.

We saw under Poch even when it all comes together the club will pull the rug. This makes supporters attitudes different to Chavs and Arse. It’s all just a compromise.

If we get a better manager. Let’s say Poch comes back, 2 seasons we fix the squad and are back in top 4, will we push on or will we just sit under the same glass ceiling. An EL or an FA cup and fucking the league it’s doable. Going for the CL or Prem requires a miracle.

Maybe there was some luck for this but Ange probably made the calculation this is the only way.
 
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Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
You support Spurs you have every right to enjoy it. I'm never forgetting it. But he's a clueless manager horribly out of his depth haven't seen a thing to change my mind about it. Unlike the Dudu talkers who are in his personality cult I've seen us win trophies under joke coaches before, it's not as unique as they want you to think Graham, Ramos , no one at Spurs recalls them fondly. Ange will be just as soon forgotten. Chavs don't sing for Demateo and he won them a ECL.

Happily I think he's gone and hopefully he takes the cult off to Olympiakos with him. He's mugged off no one with an actual brain about EPL level football.
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Fair point.
 
kingdawson said:
omg.
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Fuck him. Europa league win is great but is more to do with luck and circumstance than it is his own genius. Had we played in last years version we go out to Leverkusen or Atalanta or Liverpool. This was a weak year.

So sick of his striking gold being made out to be his genius. Watch us totally flake out of the CL miserably if we stick with him, because he’s not some cup hero, he just didn’t play a team good enough to do what top prem sides do to us.

I’m happy for him to dance around and claim laurels and act like he masterminded wins over prime Barca, as long as he fucks off and we don’t have to deal with the actual reality of his coaching.
 
Pictures that will go down in history

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Deuterz said:
We finished 17th?? On 38 points ?????

Fuck me he’s not a prophet because he predicted we would win something and we did. He threw the rest of the season away to focus hard on what he knew was by far the easiest thing to win because the calibre of opposition is incredibly low compared to the Prem.

‘Delivers’ - guy won a trophy but football has been shocking for a year and a half and we’ve seen our worst league season in forever. He hasn’t delivered shit. The EL win gets him a thank you and a goodbye cheque.
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I think the quality in the Europa this year was fair to middling.

Whatever that competition.however, you must beat them, and mostly we did. I think it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise or to in any way deflect from that achievement.

But you are right, in the statistical breakdown of the season, and all that needs considering is what basis does anyone have to believe we will do so much better next season, within a harder knockout competition and a PL that won't be any easier, and how bad must it get before the reins are removed?

Much of the noise outside of that is completely irrelevant.
 
Deuterz said:
Fuck him. Europa league win is great but is more to do with luck and circumstance than it is his own genius. Had we played in last years version we go out to Leverkusen or Atalanta or Liverpool. This was a weak year.

So sick of his striking gold being made out to be his genius. Watch us totally flake out of the CL miserably if we stick with him, because he’s not some cup hero, he just didn’t play a team good enough to do what top prem sides do to us.

I’m happy for him to dance around and claim laurels and act like he masterminded wins over prime Barca, as long as he fucks off and we don’t have to deal with the actual reality of his coaching.
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I like you but I think you're being ridiculous tbh.
 
kingdawson said:
What do you actually bring to this board? is your whole existence to troll? are you actually Spurs?

I'm honestly being genuine. I get it you want a reaction but what is your overall goal? it's clear you have little to no intention debating but I don't think you fully understand how pathetic you come across.
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Oh I'm terribly sorry for posting Ange Postecoglu content in the Ange Postecoglu thread :conteshock:
 
kingdawson said:
What do you actually bring to this board? is your whole existence to troll? are you actually Spurs?

I'm honestly being genuine. I get it you want a reaction but what is your overall goal? it's clear you have little to no intention debating but I don't think you fully understand how pathetic you come across.
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🚫 seriously it's the only way and never look back. Hateful.
 
We have hired and fired many managers, but the outcome has always been the same - very little in terms of glory, and they get sacked. Now we have some glory, so we still do the sacking?

If that's the case, then what does the next manager have to do to make it to 3 years? Play attractive football and get into the Champon
Tomo said:
Chavs have owners who will spend and buy players until shit sticks.

Woolwich have ambitious owners.

We have ENIC. A property company with a football club attached to it. Perhaps this is the only winning model under them, throw the league and everything to win a cup.

We saw under Poch even when it all comes together the club will pull the rug. This makes supporters attitudes different to Chavs and Arse. It’s all just a compromise.

If we get a better manager. Let’s say Poch comes back, 2 seasons we fix the squad and are back in top 4, will we push on or will we just sit under the same glass ceiling. An EL or an FA cup and fucking the league it’s doable. Going for the CL or Prem requires a miracle.

Maybe there was some luck for this but Ange probably made the calculation this is the only way.
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On that basis, Ange did damn well to win us a trophy, working for Levy. Many have tried and failed, but he worked out what it would take i.e. sacrifice league placings. I would have taken it if you offered it to me at the start of the season i.e. a miserable league outing (but was only -1 goal difference, which is weird), but a cup and CL football next season.

We have to push on now, for real (not like under Poch). I think we all know that we need new players, and ones with experience, not kids for the future.

I thought Levy might have sacked Ange today if he was going to, then I remembers it's a bank holiday, so if he is going to sack him, then surely that's tomorrow?
 
Luck is part of the game. End of the day EL has the 4/5th downwards best teams across Europe and if they all performed badly and we won that is life. It’s a major competition with major teams and we won.

Southgate got the worlds best draws as England manager, we could all see he was out of his depth but luck is part of life.

Our best managers in the past 30 years won nothings Poch, Harry and Jol. Our middling managers Graham, Ramos and Ange picked up cups. Sometimes things go in your favour. And let’s be honest given the amount of shit luck we have had we kind of deserved some luck.
 
Shadydan said:
Oh I'm terribly sorry for posting Ange Postecoglu content in the Ange Postecoglu thread :conteshock:
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Like I said, I don't think you fully understand how much of a clown you come across.

"oh I love Ange"..."oh actually Ange is shit and he's the reason the players are shit"..."oh look Ange won and you were wrong, you were wrong, you were wrong".

You never post anything to debate its just to attempt to antagonise, get reactions, have arguments. Your opinions change depending on the discussion you are having at that particular time then it changes again weeks later. When questioned the response is always the same..."I changed my mind".
 
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